Bath fan and ceiling rose with bulb

ziaurehmon · Jul 25, 2022

Hi.
Problem have is bath fan n bulb connection to be on together with switch.
Switch have 3 wires Eearth ,L, N.
Fan have, 4 Wires E, L,N, and Yellow wire. Mean E, red, blue, and yellow, Red in L1, yellow in L2 fan switch or isolator.
and then there is another 1 grey wire only which have current mean Live.
ceiling rose have 3,3 and 2 connector holes.
Can share pictures if someone can understand this plz..Thanks

Sharpend · Jul 25, 2022

Attach pics via a third party pic sharing site

ziaurehmon · Jul 25, 2022

poni · Jul 25, 2022

what's your question ?
what are the photos of?

loving the Sellotape (please don't use any tape electrical or parcel, to joint any cables together)

Murdoch · Jul 25, 2022

OP, re your picture of the switch. The 2 x earths (CPS’s) should be joined together

kerching · Jul 25, 2022

Guess it's 'taken it down, can't put it back', could be wrong

ziaurehmon · Jul 25, 2022

Read the question before replying plz.
U can see to main cables , one comming from pull cord switch, other from bath fan, want to switch them on together....plz.
Tnx

poni · Jul 25, 2022

ziaurehmon said:
Hi.
Problem have is bath fan n bulb connection to be on together with switch.
Switch have 3 wires Eearth ,L, N.
Fan have, 4 Wires E, L,N, and Yellow wire. Mean E, red, blue, and yellow, Red in L1, yellow in L2 fan switch or isolator.
and then there is another 1 grey wire only which have current mean Live.
ceiling rose have 3,3 and 2 connector holes.

could you please show me the question? what are we seeing in the photo ,is it the pullcord or the light?
also not all the cables are in the photos ,we need to see the complete setup, you have 3 cables from the hole in the ceiling
1st one has a red, black, and ,one bare
2nd has a red, blue, yellow, and one bare
3rd goes off to the right and I cant see where it goes
the fan switch looks like the 2nd cable goes here (as it got the same number of cores) in the olden days we would use red as permanent live the yellow as switched, and the blue as neutral all the bare are used as an earth and should be connected together cant see what the other cable is from the switch (looks like brown blue and two blacks?)

SPECIAL LOCATION · Jul 26, 2022

I have no idea what the question is...?

But I think the problem is something to do with limited understanding of 'Permanent Live', 'Switched Live'. 'Neutral' and 'Earth' connectivity..

But I may be wrong?

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

poni said:
could you please show me the question? what are we seeing in the photo 9is it the pullcord or the light?
also not all the cables are in the photos ,we need to see the complete setup, you have 3 cables from the hole in the ceiling
1st one has a red, black, and ,one bare
2nd has a red, blue, yellow, and one bare
3rd goes off to the right and I cant see where it goes
the fan switch looks like the 2nd cable goes here (as it got the same number of cores) in the olden days we would use red as permeant live the yellow as switched, and the blue as neutral all the bare are used as an earth and should be connected together cant see what the other cable is from the switch (looks like brown blue and two blacks?)

Hi
This is ceiling rose for bulb..
1 cable u saw is pull cord switch comming to bulb, second comming from fan.. u have fan switch pic no 1.. then one u saw going away u mentioned is only single wire and it is Live current I don't know myself where it is comming from, but it was all connected well , I have taken pictures before removing but unfortunately my camera didn't made any pictures or saved any that's why I am stuck here I will upload new pictures soon..

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

poni said:
could you please show me the question? what are we seeing in the photo 9is it the pullcord or the light?
also not all the cables are in the photos ,we need to see the complete setup, you have 3 cables from the hole in the ceiling
1st one has a red, black, and ,one bare
2nd has a red, blue, yellow, and one bare
3rd goes off to the right and I cant see where it goes
the fan switch looks like the 2nd cable goes here (as it got the same number of cores) in the olden days we would use red as permeant live the yellow as switched, and the blue as neutral all the bare are used as an earth and should be connected together cant see what the other cable is from the switch (looks like brown blue and two blacks?)

Mike.J · Jul 26, 2022

The OP is clearly out of his depth, sellotape joining a brown and red, neutral terminated on the insulation, should we be encouraging him?

To the OP get an electrician in they will sort it out within an hour.

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

SPECIAL LOCATION said:
I have no idea what the question is...?

But I think the problem is something to do with limited understanding of 'Permanent Live', 'Switched Live'. 'Neutral' and 'Earth' connectivity..

But I may be wrong?

Hi
Thanks, can u tell me what is permanent and switched live and is yellow used as switched live plz.
Thanks

Mike.J · Jul 26, 2022

Impossible to tell without testing, again, get an electrician in.

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

Mike.J said:
Impossible to tell without testing, again, get an electrician in.

U can define at least what is switched live called..I wanted Iean..plz.tnx

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

I got it now.when switched then it is live..thanks. actually I want to learn that's why otherwise electrician can do in 2 minutes. Thanks

ziaurehmon · Jul 26, 2022

Sharpend · Jul 26, 2022

Sorry it is no good showing us wiring diagrams as we know what we are doing, the question is do you?
Unless you are able to a) define exactly which wire does what b) read and understand the drawing, then you really ought to call in an electrician. You can ask questions and learn whilst he/she is there.

poni · Jul 26, 2022

ziaurehmon said:

yes that is how its done,
maybe you should get your wallet out and pay an electrician to sort it out,

ruggedscot · Jul 27, 2022

Exactly.... trying to do something without the full understanding of what you are doing. Not good.

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