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  1. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    I knew those guys were trolls, I just had no idea they received their PhD in doing it. Trust me, its like that with any topic which begins where their understanding of electrical theory ends.    :Computerproblem: My only fault was not seeing the size of the hornet's nest.
  2. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Table: https://www.platt.com/CutSheets/Multiple/AWG Conductors.pdf For example #14 is 2.08mm2, #12 3.31mm2, and #10 5.26mm2. Look at "Area" for the exact mm2 equivalent. Most common wire we use is THHN and THHN/THWN-2 which is rated at 90*C.  
  3. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    You would not be to far off in saying that, lol.  What the British often take for granted being they are the pioneers behind electrifying nearly every 50Hz country on earth. New Zealand, but have a peak starting at 0:59: https://www.youtube.com/embed/T0m0tnCLSHY?feature=oembed Have fun...
  4. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Here is the 2011 NEC: https://archive.org/details/NationalElectricalCode PDF version (ignore the cover, its technically incorrect as it goes to the Handbook version rather than the code itself)  https://ia800503.us.archive.org/4/items/NationalElectricalCode/National Electrical Code.pdf Here...
  5. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Yes, the target trip threshold is about 6ma as apposed to 30ma like in the UK. You have to keep in mind that GFCIs were first introduced to take care of 2 prong tools with metal casings becoming live. So the idea was to have very conservative electrocution protection. The down side however are...
  6. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    A plastic sleeve would prevent the leads from going in and touching the blades in the socket itself. I should have used a plastic rod or something, but I trusted myself enough not to get bit. And even if I do, 120 is just a tickle :P  
  7. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    I see. Your RCDs and socket RCDs, how much fault current are they designed to interrupt?
  8. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Our sockets are earthed as well, but we lack most of the other. BTW, wont high voltages result in contact pitting thus more chance of contacts welding shut?
  9. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Ok, Update! :) Got this from Leviton: http://forums.mikeholt.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15792&stc=1&d=1475165157
  10. M

    Testing/verifying a pool

    Not required in the NEC nor is it an official listed test but just a demonstration of how a correct bonding system should check out: https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q8YLcXRo-Go?feature=oembed
  11. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Nothing new, they started in the 70s and then spread each code edition. Earthing type sockets were not mandated until the mid 60s, which by then (as a result) every tool/appliance in the US was 2 prong. Manufactures kept making 2 prong equipment for existing installations. To make up for that...
  12. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Its better than test/reset buttons, which is all thats required mind you. But yes, 5ma is does not work well on long runs of cable. Or treadmills. Also keep in mind that unlike the UK GFCI were first mandated to take care of appliances without an earth pin, which was near 100% 50 years ago...
  13. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    At least simple lights will do in the mean time: https://www.youtube.com/embed/v3r6Go3mWeU?feature=oembed
  14. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    I do, I really do LOL. :)
  15. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Yup, which is what I've been calling for all along. This is the reason why. The test and reset buttons never actually test the time, ma threshold or correct deneregization of the device as seen here. My best guess it that the live contact welded shut at some point. The mechanism inside can...
  16. M

    Never trust the test button on an RCD

    Came across one that finally taught me otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/embed/M8phlIi42qY?feature=oembed
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