Cable Sizes

[copdog]

What size t&e are you all using with the new derating factors ? , i was thinking on using 2.5 but on 20a rings to avoid the expence of 4mm t&e ,

also what are you paying for cable at the moment ? , i had some prices today as follows

1.0 t&e

 

[Apache]

What size t&e are you all using with the new derating factors ? , i was thinking on using 2.5 but on 20a rings to avoid the expence of 4mm t&e ,also what are you paying for cable at the moment ? , i had some prices today as follows

1.0 t&e

 

[Mr Sworld]

Yep! Do it all in radials..... In the kitchen just stick in a radial for each item that has a heating element (washing machine, tumbler drier, dishwasher) and stick a seperate one in for sockets/fridge/freezer.

 

[cheggers]

stick in 4mm

the trouble with radials for everything you will need a big fuse board what you will save in cable size will cost you more in labour plus mcb's

 

[binky]

Anyone seen any derating factors for rings ie does 32A ring still need 2.5mm or should we be using 4mm??? (Or have I not been reading the regs closely enough)

Kitchen radial bad idea ?:| - if all heavy appliances are in this area eg tumbledryer, washing machine, dishwasher etc, then turning on the kettle can easily overload 20A MCB. I have this problem at home due to broken neutral buried deep in wall behind tiles (it wasn't me and I will get round to it one day). Its very irritating

 

[extension15]

On the subject of 4mm T&E.........

How much is it??

Blushing

 

[Apache]

[No message]

 

[extension15]

 

[DonkeyDong]

i think you will find most domestic sparks won't even think about derating factors - don't all attack me at once! Lol

Most will simply chuck in 2.5 for the rings, and 1.0/1.5 for the lights - without even thinking - end of!

D.

Ps - the above statement does not apply to most the sparks on here

 

[Apache]

i think you will find most domestic sparks won't even think about derating factors - don't all attack me at once! LolMost will simply chuck in 2.5 for the rings, and 1.0/1.5 for the lights - without even thinking - end of!

D.

Ps - the above statement does not apply to most the sparks on here

it's worked ok until now.......................

 

[batty]

i think you will find most domestic sparks won't even think about derating factors - don't all attack me at once! LolMost will simply chuck in 2.5 for the rings, and 1.0/1.5 for the lights - without even thinking - end of!

D.

Ps - the above statement does not apply to most the sparks on here

I have not thought of derating factors but have not used 1.0mm on lighting for years. I tend to put plenty of circuits in that way they won't get overloaded.

Batty

 

[extension15]

i think you will find most domestic sparks won't even think about derating factors - don't all attack me at once! LolMost will simply chuck in 2.5 for the rings, and 1.0/1.5 for the lights - without even thinking - end of!

D.

Ps - the above statement does not apply to most the sparks on here

In a typical domestic installation, your comments are perfectly valid..

Applaud Smiley

 

[a1]

Radials up and down, and rings on a 32A in the kitchen and utility room.

 

[Lec]

The only thing I would add is that cable is due to keep falling in price due to the price of metals including copper at a low at the moment.

 

[a1]

On my local news this morning, Tesco are feeling the pinch too. sales @ 2% now compared to the 4% for the last quarter.

Also, "The Severn Bridge" have not passed on the VAT saving.

For years I was using that bridge (first, the old one and then the new, when that opened) BUT being a French company, they never paid Tax.

 

[binky]

For years I was using that bridge (first, the old one and then the new, when that opened) BUT being a French company, they never paid Tax.

Paying the French to visit the Welsh from England - sounds like a f****, oh sorry it is :^O :^O:^O

 

[binky]

'ere f**** is a perfectly acceptable non rude word ?:| ? :| ?:|

Unless it has new connotations I don't know of ?:| ? :| ?:| ? :|

 

[Tazmanracer]

farce? sorry always struggling to guess whats under those stars! Blushing

 

[Apache]

farce? sorry always struggling to guess whats under those stars! Blushing

F A R S E

 

[biker mike]

What u need is a motorbike as we dont pay to use the bridge , i dont know why we arent charged but i'm not complaining ...... Applaud Smiley