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Thanks for the reply so there is hope  with my level 3 I just never done my nvq but still worked on sites I still keep my hand In here and there but only my own stuff and family’s like you say sockets lights garden lights. I think what’s made getting thinking about sparking more is the face my son has got into and he’s loving he’s doing commercial stuff ie Starbucks, kfc, tacho bells also domestic stuff to so I’m just wondering would it be worth getting back on the tools well what I have left I’ve given everything to my son ha