Downlight IP rating - kitchen

[matt.leung]

Does down-lights in the kitchen have to be IP rated. ?

I think i know the answer but just wanna check....

 

[sparkytim]

No

 

[spinlondon]

Everything should have an IP rating.

Use appendiz 5 to determine what is required for the circumstances in your case.

 

[sellers]

yes spin, but IP is often used as slang for rated for bathrooms.

Matt as long as your kitchen doesn't contain a bath or a shower your ok.

 

[PC Electrics]

Yes. IP20.

IP44 reg is for bathrooms, but may make sense in a kitchen anyway with steam generation.

 

[mikep]

But what if you have one of those rinse hose's in the sink has it then got to be ip65 because of water jets or is it ok being over 2.25 metres !!!!!!!

Have I started an argument !!!

 

[tom1]

ipx5 for low pressure jets, but still i would think not

 

[mikep]

I know, makes you think thou if something goes wrong !!

 

[sellers]

But what if you have one of those rinse hose's in the sink has it then got to be ip65 because of water jets or is it ok being over 2.25 metres !!!!!!!Have I started an argument !!!

I had this with elecsa, I installed an 8.5kw shower to wash hair in a shop that was being turned into a barbers. I said the existing lights aren't ip rated and the nearest socket is 2mtrs away. They said no need to bother as the shower was being used with the sink, therefore treat it as a sink and not a shower.

 

[mikep]

Yeah but surely the same result happens whether you call it a sink or a bath !!

 

[Manator]

Post 3 is the best near answer.

Everything you install has to be suitable for the environment, that is outside influences fauana etc etc etc.

The initial risk assessment is up to you to decide what rating should be fitted, I tend to err on the worst case scenario.

 

[Andy™]

I had this with elecsa, I installed an 8.5kw shower to wash hair in a shop that was being turned into a barbers. I said the existing lights aren't ip rated and the nearest socket is 2mtrs away. They said no need to bother as the shower was being used with the sink, therefore treat it as a sink and not a shower.

but the main difference is in a bathroom you are usually fully wet & dont have any clothes on. so body resistance lower and more at risk form a shock

in a hair shop, your not fully wet & naked. or you;d get some funny looks and most likely a free visit to the local cop shop