Help and Guidance Required

[Juli Cameron]

Morning All,

Any advice on the following would be much appreciated.

The local council have appointed a qualified electrician to carry out urgent remedial repairs. Yesterday UK Power Networks attended to disconnect and reconnect the power before and after the electrician carried out work in the outside meter box. This electrician is not certified and does not belong to any regulatory body. The repairs that he carried out yesterday will not be certified or inspected until another 5 days has passed. 

This work, we have been advised will be certified by a TPC electrician, from what I have read on NAPIT, this electrician should have been present before, during and after the works were carried out, is this correct?

Any advice regarding whether the qualified electrician should have carried out the work on his own merit and whether this work can be signed off retrospectively would be much appreciated. As tenants we have already suffered a fire and the electrics were condemned as there is no EIC for a new consumer unit, new electric boiler and new electric shower which is why we sought the council to be involved.  

 

[Fleeting]

Generally what you say is true however if they only replaced the consumer unit then the third party certifier will be able to see all they need to. If circuits were rewired/modified then this is a different matter. The EIC will go to your landlord and not yourself.

 

[Murdoch]

As tenants we have already suffered a fire and the electrics were condemned as there is no EIC for a new consumer unit, new electric boiler and new electric shower which is why we sought the council to be involved.  

Are you a council tenant?

 

[binky]

Any advice regarding whether the qualified electrician should have carried out the work on his own merit and whether this work can be signed off retrospectively would be much appreciated. As tenants we have already suffered a fire and the electrics were condemned as there is no EIC for a new consumer unit, new electric boiler and new electric shower which is why we sought the council to be involved.  

This is  not unusual for council works, or larger electrical contractors where they have one 'supervisor' who inspects and tests work done by others in the company. There is no actual legal requirement to be registered with the likes of NAPIT to do any electrical work, registration just allows self-notiifcation of works to Building Control. 

 

[Juli Cameron]

Thank you

 

[Juli Cameron]

Sorry, there is a history and is the reason that I ask for input.

We rented a property privately in Dec 20. In Jan 21 there was an electrical fire in the outside meter cabinet. The electrics were repaired temporarily by the letting agents electrician. More works were required. The landlord wished to use own electrician to carry out the works. We asked for his certification, none was provided. The EICR that had been provided by the landlord is worthless, the electrician that she appointed past it as being satisfactory when there were over 15 c1's amongst various other C2's and F1's. The fault lies with the landlord not having the electrical works prior to the tenancy having an EIC carried out. These works are less than 2 years old and included a new consumer board, electric boiler and electric shower.

Now we asked the council to intervene as the landlord insisted that the qualified but not certified electrician carry out the repairs, as tenants we opposed on the grounds that he wasn't certified.

The council, however, instructed the same individual to carry out the repairs, a warrant was issued so that as tenants we could not oppose. 

Any further comments, much appreciated.

 

[binky]

how did you know there 15 C1s? Have you had an independent test done? 

 

[kerching]

What do you mean by "a warrant was issued" and what is a TPC Electrician?

 

[Murdoch]

What do you mean by "a warrant was issued" and what is a TPC Electrician?

isn’t a warrant a Scottish term?

 

[ProDave]

isn’t a warrant a Scottish term?

It is, as in building warrant,  i.e getting building control approval for something.

It would be required in Scotland for a full rewire of a flat, but not for repairs alterations and upgrades.

The OP needs to explain more.

 

[kerching]

isn’t a warrant a Scottish term?

Well that's cleared that one up... thanks 

now to the TPC electrician.......Tried Probably Can't ?

 

[Murdoch]

Well that's cleared that one up... thanks 

now to the TPC electrician.......Tried Probably Can't ?

third party certified ?

 

[kerching]

third party certified ?

Again that would make sense....I have no idea how Scottish electricity works

Its a pity these things are not explained fully in the first place

 

[ProDave]

Again that would make sense....I have no idea how Scottish electricity works

Its a pity these things are not explained fully in the first place

It's the same as English electricity, same voltage, same frequency.

Except there is no...... oh I am not allowed to say that.

 

[Murdoch]

It's the same as English electricity, same voltage, same frequency.

Except there is no...... oh I am not allowed to say that.

so anybody can apply for a warrant ?