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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rob_the_rich" data-source="post: 382024" data-attributes="member: 8419">just been googling about welding mask/goggles and solar eclipses. Seems a 14 filter minimum is needed, but you don't get to see a lot because the sun is quite small. Some people are tempted to use binoculars too, in which case the filter needs to go in front of the binoculars and must be securely fixed (if it falls off or slips a bit, you go blind). Unless you absolutely know what you are doing, please don't try this, not worth the risk. Pinhole and paper work brilliantly.I am a bit of an astronomy nut but I once lost a tenner to a mate when Venus, Mars and Jupiter were all visible from his back garden. I pointed out all three and he said that there was another planet that was also visible from there, and was willing to bet money on it. I knew I was a bit more interested in astronomy than he was so I accepted his bet and asked him to show me the other planet. He pointed straight down.</blockquote>