Light switch in a bathroom

[Stevie h]

Light switch in a bathroom ? ok under the 17th if its more than 0.6m from the edge of the bath? all circuits RCD protected

cheers

ste

 

[ian932]

Crazy as it may seem yes, although IMO I would still use pull cord as u could easy reach a switch 600mm away while stood in bath/shower and then you are totaly relying on an rcd

Make sure you get your bonding up to scratch as well (either supplementry or main protective of all extraneous) cus if anything did happen ur rear is covered 100%

 

[Stevie h]

Cheers, customer don't like the idea off a pull cord and its very awkward to put the switch out side the room, light sw will be 1 meter away from the edge of the bath

Ste

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Another point to think about is, Is the switch suitable for the environment ? This is a Reg ( No, i dont know which right now) Condensation, wet hands ect ???

 

[batty]

As slips says the switch must be suitable for the location a standard switch would not be.

Batty

 

[ian932]

Another point to think about is, Is the switch suitable for the environment ? This is a Reg ( No, i dont know which right now) Condensation, wet hands ect ???

Common sense say's a normal switch is not up to it, but I checked external influences in the red book 701.512.2 and no mention of it just the requirements for zones 0-2.

I was suprised myself

 

[batty]

Wheres steptoe.

The regs are not law but I can tell you if you where to electrocute someone by putting a standard switch in a bathroom you would not have a leg to stand on. Ok so all circuits need 30mA Rcd protection but what if that Rcd does not work. If it is never tested it will get sticky. Common sense tellls you not to put a switch in a bathroom. You cannot put a socket in 99% of bathrooms so why should a switch be any different.

Batty

 

[NozSpark]

I saw these the other day, I haven't used them and don't know how they stand with the regs - but they are worth a look

 

[batty]

I saw these the other day, I haven't used them and don't know how they stand with the regs - but they are worth a look

Looks like that could get over the problem.

Batty

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Another point to think about is, Is the switch suitable for the environment ? This is a Reg ( No, i dont know which right now) Condensation, wet hands ect ???

section 522, external influences staring at page 98.

I believe?

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

As slips says the switch must be suitable for the location a standard switch would not be.Batty

Why?????

If it is outside of the zones?

how is it more dangerous than a Switch (or socket for that mater)

in a kitchen within 300mm of a cooker or sink.

steam from cooking!

Washing in he sink with wet hands...

switch nearer than 0.6M!? ?:|

 

[Mr Sworld]

Have you thought about using the MK Echo wireless lightswitch?

It's entirely self contained and relies on a piezoelectric crystal to generate energy. This then sends a RF signal to the receiver situated at the light. It needs no wires and no battery and can be stuck on glass and tiles.

It would be the best possible switch I would think, hell, you could even use it when taking a shower! (Not sure the IP rating would be up to it though!)

 

[batty]

Why?????If it is outside of the zones?

how is it more dangerous than a Switch (or socket for that mater)

in a kitchen within 300mm of a cooker or sink.

steam from cooking!

Washing in he sink with wet hands...

switch nearer than 0.6M!? ?:|

Come on specs thats just stupid. Wet feet tiled floor you try it. I take it you have no young children.

Batty

 

[Stevie h]

Convinced the customer the safest way would be to put the switch on the outside wall, caused a bit of damage but safer all round

Cheers

Ste

 

[batty]

Convinced the customer the safest way would be to put the switch on the outside wall, caused a bit of damage but safer all roundCheers

Ste

Sensible I will never fit a standard switch in a bathroom.

Batty

 

[Junior]

Have you thought about using the MK Echo wireless lightswitch?It's entirely self contained and relies on a piezoelectric crystal to generate energy. This then sends a RF signal to the receiver situated at the light. It needs no wires and no battery and can be stuck on glass and tiles.

It would be the best possible switch I would think, hell, you could even use it when taking a shower! (Not sure the IP rating would be up to it though!)

That's impressive. B-)

Ive never seen a switch like it before! Very clever how it has no wires or batteries. Applaud Smiley

 

[Andy™]

If there so desperate for a switch, you can get pneumatic switches. install air button where they want switch, run pipe to ceiling void or somewhere, connect to air powered switch and connect cables to that

 

[batty]

That's impressive. B-)Ive never seen a switch like it before! Very clever how it has no wires or batteries. Applaud Smiley

Good for sparks when it goes wrong you can get more money for call out.

Batty

 

[Nicky Tesla]

Why?????If it is outside of the zones?

how is it more dangerous than a Switch (or socket for that mater)

in a kitchen within 300mm of a cooker or sink.

steam from cooking!

Washing in he sink with wet hands...

switch nearer than 0.6M!? ?:|

Look on the zone diagram on this site, they are still using the old zones.

 

[kme]

Relevance, NT?