Showers and RCDs

[NozSpark]

If you were refitting a shower that had been removed so that the wall could be re-tiled, would you insist that it had RCD protection??

It's on a 30A 3036 ATM!

 

[Lurch]

Yes.

 

[NozSpark]

Cheers...

glad I'm not being too arsey!

Although my arse is very arsey:^O:^O

 

[Lurch]

So is mine, but I think in this instance the arsiness is justified.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

So is mine, but I think in this instance the arsiness is justified.

Concur!

in fact...

The bigger the arse the better IMHO...

RCD the beastie!Applaud Smiley

 

[kme]

Agreed. Arsee all the way boys (& girls [oops])

 

[bengie]

i indeed concur, even if its the same shower going back on the wall your still installing a shower so it will need a certificate and meet current regs

 

[tom1]

i would rcd it, but am i right in thinking that you are not required to as its basically the same a straight swap

 

[Lurch]

It should have had an RCD in the first place so it's the same as refitting a socket with no earth IMO. Just because it was like that doesn;t make it right, and also you are now responsible for it, so if the lack of an RCD causes problems further down the line then it's you that get's it in the neck, not the original fitter.

 

[tom1]

It should have had an RCD in the first place so it's the same as refitting a socket with no earth IMO. Just because it was like that doesn;t make it right, and also you are now responsible for it, so if the lack of an RCD causes problems further down the line then it's you that get's it in the neck, not the original fitter.

agree compleatly that it should have one and i would fit one.

the thing that am unsure about which i may have to check is replacing a shower like for like is not notifiable, also if u replace a light fitting that too should now have rcd protection but would u if the customer will not have it?

 

[Lurch]

Difference with a light fitting is, and I might be deviating slightly here from the correct way of doing things, it may have never needed an RCD so swapping like for like isn't a problem, IMO.

If you swapped a socket and there was a minor problem, like spur off a spur for 2 doubles behind the TV then yes, swap and notify the customer that it's not technically right. If it was completely not right in the slighest, e.g. no earth, 1.0mm on a 40A or similar, then I wouldn't refit it without correcting the fault.

 

[safedepth]

agree compleatly that it should have one and i would fit one.the thing that am unsure about which i may have to check is replacing a shower like for like is not notifiable, also if u replace a light fitting that too should now have rcd protection but would u if the customer will not have it?

Surely it's notifiable as it is a special location, (most showers are in rooms containing a shower).

 

[batty]

I would think technically you do not have to RCD it as you are only replacing item and not altering wiring. As long as earth loop etc is ok if there is a fault circuit breaker or fuse in this case will blow. I would RCD it myself though.

Batty

 

[kme]

1. I`d definitely RCD it.

2. I`d also notify it, as you`re altering the circuit protection (see 1. above)

IF you did a "straight swap" e.g. replaced a faulty shower, and all circuit protection was correct, then I wouldn`t notify.

KME

 

[NozSpark]

I've now got to at least upgrade the CPD if not the whole circuit!! (upgrade shower to 9.5kW)

So will now definately get RCD and notification... the job was always going to be notified as there is an addition to the lighting circuit (mirror light)

thanks for the replies guys...