as expected... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62208232
smart meters & off peak pricing
- Thread starter Andy™
- Start date
Help Support Talk Electrician Forum:
It's almost like they are reading a pre-written book that we all know the ending to...
Deffinately a master plan behind it all. It's frustrating to see it unfold, if nothing else.
Deffinately a master plan behind it all. It's frustrating to see it unfold, if nothing else.
interesting how the government fails to mention how much cheaper on-shore wind is.
It's nice to see they have some form of plan at all!
Smart meters and grid supply issues have long been part of the solution to green energy production. Personally, I think the government has been far too slow off the mark in reducing our dependence on gas.
King Arthur
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jun 22, 2019
- Messages
- 91
- Reaction score
- 27
seems to me that the first thing government should do is to remove the tax on electricity and gas (domestic at least).
It has recently become abundantly clear (if it wasn;t already) that energy if a fundamental necessity of modern life, like food and water, and really should not be teaxed. ESPECIALLY when we already pay our bills out of taxed income!
I'm not arguing against taxes, of course we must pay taxes, but lets be straight and honest about them. For example, what's the currrent VAT rate? 20% right? WRONG!! It's 20% of what you spend from already taxed income.
It has recently become abundantly clear (if it wasn;t already) that energy if a fundamental necessity of modern life, like food and water, and really should not be teaxed. ESPECIALLY when we already pay our bills out of taxed income!
I'm not arguing against taxes, of course we must pay taxes, but lets be straight and honest about them. For example, what's the currrent VAT rate? 20% right? WRONG!! It's 20% of what you spend from already taxed income.
Given that about 50% of our leccy is produced using gas, When you stop using gas, your are using gas
Yep, lack of investment in Uk infrastructure, and a lack of urgency dealing with CO2 emmissions. This is an interesting site though, dependence on gas is dropping. https://gridwatch.co.ukGiven that about 50% of our leccy is produced using gas, When you stop using gas, your are using gas
So the article talks about buying cheaper lecky, but fails to mention lecky prices going up at peak times
hum
hum
the 'cheaper' is normal rate. the peak times is premium
and since everyone will want to use leccy as off peak times, they will probably have variable 'off peak' times based on total demand so will change on a daily basis. off peak start at 1800? well everyone started using more power then so off peak is now 1740-1800 and then 1900 onwards. oh, youre getting your food & shower at 1900 now? thats now a peak time, off peak is now 1800-1845
Once they have forced us into electric everything there will no longer be off peak or not so peak electricity then add in the not so smart big brother will control you meters for limiting when you can use your smart appliances or throw the occassional instant power cut and we will be up the creek without a paddle
fourtytwo
Active member
Don't you remember the earlier "rush to gas" to reduce dependence on coal and its emissions ??
Government policy is mired in the thoughts of so called advisors who could not design there way out of a cardboard box!
indeed I do, another short termist policy to meet CO2 reduction targets.
I don't believe its the advice that's at fault, it's the government trying not to 'upset the apple cart' ie do anything that might upset their voters. Remember Dave Cameroon promising the 'greenest government ever', then slashing FiT payments and allowing big companies to absord the budget for solar energy by building solar farms.
We have all the tools and tech we need to reach net zero, what has always been lacking is the political will to invest and bring it to fruition. Covid was a very good example of what can be achieved when they do pull fingers out of bottoms!
King Arthur
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jun 22, 2019
- Messages
- 91
- Reaction score
- 27
Whatever happened to that promise of 'electricity too cheap to meter' from the nuclear industry? 
Incompetent politicians, (of all parties), with zero scientific understanding and no foresight beyond the next election. That's what happened.Whatever happened to that promise of 'electricity too cheap to meter' from the nuclear industry?
BS to cover making nuclear bombs...Whatever happened to that promise of 'electricity too cheap to meter' from the nuclear industry?
Sharpend
"It Just Is"
Didn’t know nuclear bombs were made to British Standards…..
Every day really is a school day!!
