Spot light

[dempstar]

Hi Guys

Having a bit of trouble been asked by a customer to wire a spot light in a small boiler room that houses a combi as the customer thinks its a bit dark in there also with a switch in it to switch the spot on/off i have took a link from the bedroom rose & wired it to a another rose with the spot light off that i smeam to have trouble switching it off /on the light works just stays on constant. I have wired from one rose to another neutral to neutral, live in loop to loop, & from switch live in common to loop live, neutal to live for switch live in the rose, from the rose to the light live in loop & neutral in with neurals in loop what am i doing wrong do get it 2 switch on/off.

Ian

headbang

 

[Lurch]

Well, I think I followed that, after getting dizzy a few times. If I say what I think I'll get banned so I'll just try and be helpful and you see if you can read between the lines.

The rose has 2 live terminals, one constant and one switched.

And another thing, the blue from the switch isn;t a neutral.

Worryingly yours,

 

[dempstar]

Thanks Stuart, Yeah i know that i have wired the blue from the switch to the 2nd live in the rose as you say there is 2 in live 3 in loop & 3 in neutral i'm thinking i need to put the light live in the 1st live on the rose for the spot light to turn on/off

 

[batty]

Sorry can't follow this you tallk to fast I am sure someone (pache) can sort a diagram out.

 

[paul b b]

Damp, can you draw a diagram of what you have done? i can't follow.

also, slow down you talk to fast

 

[Lurch]

I think a diagram is unnecessary, it's a one way loop in light with a single feed in. It is a simple fix.

 

[tom1]

easiest way from what i gather is to take perm live, neutral, earth from the bedroom celing rose using twin and earth to the switch in boiler room, then run twin and earth to the light from the switch

in the switch connect earth to earth using the box, neutral to neutral with a connector and one live in the top of the switch and one live in the bottem of the switch.

thats about as simple as i can explain it

 

[Apache]

If I say what I think I'll get banned so I'll just try and be helpful and you see if you can read between the lines.And another thing, the blue from the switch isn;t a neutral.

Worryingly yours,

:Salute :^O

That takes my vote for post of the week

Scoobed!

:slap :slap

 

[Apache]

easiest way from what i gather is to take perm live, neutral, earth from the bedroom celing rose using twin and earth to the switch in boiler room, then run twin and earth to the light from the switchin the switch connect earth to earth using the box, neutral to neutral with a connector and one live in the top of the switch and one live in the bottem of the switch.

thats about as simple as i can explain it

Loop in the switch as Tom says. It's lighting you can just take a T&E branch off anywhere with a perm live and neutral.

Even I can do it

 

[dempstar]

Thanks guys willl try to explain better, i have used twin & earth from the bedroom rose to another rose above spot, n to n in rose, loop live to loop live in rose & earth to earth in rose. switch cable blue to 2nd live in rose above spot & brwn to loop live in rose, for the spot brwn to loop in rose above it & blue in neutral above the spotlight & light stays on but can't turn it on or off hope this makes a bit more sense & what i'm doing wrong or a easier way of doing it Please

 

[Lurch]

http://talk.electricianforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=164209&postcount=2

If you can;t suss it or haven;t got the gist of the above link then get someone else to look at it. It doesn;t need rewiring, it isn;t complicated, it's a simple fix. Ignore all the 'easier to do it this way' posts, not helping.

Again, http://talk.electricianforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=164209&postcount=2.

 

[Brian 157]

From your last post you have the spot-light connected to loop (permanent live) and neutral, your spot light is not connected to the switch so ofcourse you can't turn it off. The brown of the spot should be in the 'L' terminal with the switch return.

I don't mean to be rude but are you sure you should be doing electrical work on other people's properties?