Madasafish
Well-known member
I commissioned an EICR this month and received the final report in my email. Attached are two relevant pages from that report. I requested clarification on some of the observations but was met with "the price does not cover a long technical debate about regulations. If this is what you require I will need to invoice accordingly as I'm extremely busy."
Was I being unreasonable, here is my email....
Dear Mr Blogs,
Before I can go forward with your remedial quote, I really would appreciate it if you could be more specific with four observations recorded on your EICR.
I have paid you for an EICR service but so far am unable to get specific details from four of your observations that have been reasonably requested. Those questions are shown at the end of this email. Where applicable in the observations, I previously asked for photographs, the request was met with I did not ask for photographs when ordering the EICR so non are available.
As the proprietor of your electrical company signing off EICR’s for a team of testers, you should be very familiar with this document.
Electrical Safety First, Best Practice Guide, Issue 5
Within the Observations section are the following paragraphs….
“After due consideration, each such observed safety issue should be recorded at the appropriate point in the inspection or test results schedule, and further detailed in the ‘observations’ section of the report.”
“Each observation should be written in a clear, accurate and concise manner that is likely to be understood by the person ordering the work.”
“An electrical installation condition report is intended to be a factual report on the condition of an installation, not a proposal for remedial work. Therefore, each recorded observation should describe a specific defect, omission or item for which improvement is recommended.”
I am confident you do follow best practices, so can you please be more specific with the following observations recorded on your EICR. If you forward this email to your tester who completed the job, he can clarify the locations. My questions are in Italics
1. The test results for circuit 3 show loose connections within the circuit. C2
Circuit 3: Max Zs Permitted = 1.10, Measured Zs L=0.16, N=0.16, CPC=0.29. I am at loss to understand what is wrong with those readings?
2. There is no continuity of the lights circuits CPC. C2.
Which lighting circuit, Upstairs, Downstairs or Both?. Studying the test results would indicate to me downstairs lights (R1+R2). Can you confirm?
3. The security lights cable entry has been insulated with electrical tape. C2
Which security light/s? (plural), there are four of them or do you mean all of them?. I can get this remedied if I know which security lights
4. Cables are not secure. C3.
Exactly where are the cables not secure? If you could ask your tester to clarify the locations, I can ensure they are secured.
5. 6 circuits do not have RCD protection. C3
Understood.
6. The Zs reading for the cookers type C RCBO exceeds the maximum permitted value. C2
Understood.
I hope you don’t think me unreasonable requesting this information,
I look forward to your reply,
Kind regards,
Madasafish
View attachment EICR_May2021.pdf
Was I being unreasonable, here is my email....
Dear Mr Blogs,
Before I can go forward with your remedial quote, I really would appreciate it if you could be more specific with four observations recorded on your EICR.
I have paid you for an EICR service but so far am unable to get specific details from four of your observations that have been reasonably requested. Those questions are shown at the end of this email. Where applicable in the observations, I previously asked for photographs, the request was met with I did not ask for photographs when ordering the EICR so non are available.
As the proprietor of your electrical company signing off EICR’s for a team of testers, you should be very familiar with this document.
Electrical Safety First, Best Practice Guide, Issue 5
Within the Observations section are the following paragraphs….
“After due consideration, each such observed safety issue should be recorded at the appropriate point in the inspection or test results schedule, and further detailed in the ‘observations’ section of the report.”
“Each observation should be written in a clear, accurate and concise manner that is likely to be understood by the person ordering the work.”
“An electrical installation condition report is intended to be a factual report on the condition of an installation, not a proposal for remedial work. Therefore, each recorded observation should describe a specific defect, omission or item for which improvement is recommended.”
I am confident you do follow best practices, so can you please be more specific with the following observations recorded on your EICR. If you forward this email to your tester who completed the job, he can clarify the locations. My questions are in Italics
1. The test results for circuit 3 show loose connections within the circuit. C2
Circuit 3: Max Zs Permitted = 1.10, Measured Zs L=0.16, N=0.16, CPC=0.29. I am at loss to understand what is wrong with those readings?
2. There is no continuity of the lights circuits CPC. C2.
Which lighting circuit, Upstairs, Downstairs or Both?. Studying the test results would indicate to me downstairs lights (R1+R2). Can you confirm?
3. The security lights cable entry has been insulated with electrical tape. C2
Which security light/s? (plural), there are four of them or do you mean all of them?. I can get this remedied if I know which security lights
4. Cables are not secure. C3.
Exactly where are the cables not secure? If you could ask your tester to clarify the locations, I can ensure they are secured.
5. 6 circuits do not have RCD protection. C3
Understood.
6. The Zs reading for the cookers type C RCBO exceeds the maximum permitted value. C2
Understood.
I hope you don’t think me unreasonable requesting this information,
I look forward to your reply,
Kind regards,
Madasafish
View attachment EICR_May2021.pdf
