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[The Godfather]

I would give it a code 1, it is a dangerous as exporting pme

My boys think otherwise.

The Godfather

 

[Evans Electric]

Junction boxes were done that way in prehistoric times (13th edition) because most accessories incld. JBs had quite small capacity terminals so not cutting gave you more room. In those days there was no green sleeving, earths were left bare and lets face it, I would'nt lose any sleep over 2 inches of bare earth wire, lifes too short for that !!

Deke

 

[steptoe]

only at terminations.

is a termination/terminal = end of

its more of a through cable, not actually terminated, the spur is terminated,

am I being twisted on this?? ; \

Im gonna code 1 all your crimp joints too,! :^O :^O:^O]

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[steptoe]

Junction boxes were done that way in prehistoric times (13th edition) because most accessories incld. JBs had quite small capacity terminals so not cutting gave you more room. In those days there was no green sleeving, earths were left bare and lets face it, I would'nt lose any sleep over 2 inches of bare earth wire, lifes too short for that !!Deke

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[cheggers]

I would give it a code 1, it is a dangerous as exporting pme

I was only joking it was a tongue in cheek with steptoe

normally it would be a code 4 but a code 4 says as amended, but if this was done after the amendment then what code would you give it. I think there should be another code saying something like code 5 does not comply ,or needs improvement but is not dangerous. I used to give missing grommets from back boxes a code 2 but now that gives an unsatisfactory cert what would you code it

 

[steptoe]

I was only joking it was a tongue in cheek with steptoe normally it would be a code 4 but a code 4 says as amended, but if this was done after the amendment then what code would you give it. I think there should be another code saying something like code 5 does not comply ,or needs improvement but is not dangerous. I used to give missing grommets from back boxes a code 2 but now that gives an unsatisfactory cert what would you code it

thats why I gave you Applaud Smiley

good one.

its hard to know sometimes, requires improvement, but not immediate danger... ?:|

 

[Evans Electric]

Missing grommets in boxes I'd give Code 4 does'nt comply with BS7671, again sleep will not be lost, if it was going to short out on the box , it would have done it by now. I tend to take the stand that if someone is that concerned about a grommet or a bit of green sleeving then they will be correcting it themselves.

I'm afraid years in the trade have made me a little cynical. I'm quite nice really !!

Deke

 

[sirsparkabit]

Missing grommets in boxes I'd give Code 4 does'nt comply with BS7671, again sleep will not be lost, if it was going to short out on the box , it would have done it by now. I tend to take the stand that if someone is that concerned about a grommet or a bit of green sleeving then they will be correcting it themselves.I'm afraid years in the trade have made me a little cynical. I'm quite nice really !!

Deke

isbn 0-9531058 9 X Niceic snag 32.Failure to provide a grommet where a cable enters a back box is not in its own right a deficiency,providing the cable sheath is adequately protected against damage from any sharp edges.

cable mentioned is T+E.

Solutions mentioned. Deburring, suitable physical protection,or (wait for it)

provide an appropriate grommet.

So when giving a code for lack of grommets do you feel for sharp edges to make sure they havent been deburred?.

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[cheggers]

so what they are saying is as long as there are no sharp edges that's OK

so the knockout on metal boxes don't need grommets because they are not sharp. this forum is starting to save me money

thanks for the reply

 

[a1]

I always use grommets, Regardless of whether they are sharp or not. :|

 

[steptoe]

so what they are saying is as long as there are no sharp edges that's OK so the knockout on metal boxes don't need grommets because they are not sharp. this forum is starting to save me money

thanks for the reply

knock them all out, we can weigh them in at xmas.

 

[extension15]

Ah, grommets...

Always makes me smile (and I do fit them..)...

I'd like to think ALL Sparky's pull their cables down to the backbox, and pull that remaining bit of cable through the hole, like..

Far more damage to pulling cables through is done on a patrrice

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[sirsparkabit]

who is this PAT RRICE ext could it possibly be PATTRESS in disguise?

 

[Evans Electric]

Oh Pat R Price , I know him we were apprentices together, a sparks gave him a fiver to buy him a glass hammer , he bought him one from Woolworths . guys name was Buzz Barr I think.

Deke

 

[Badger]

Oh Pat R Price , I know him we were apprentices together, a sparks gave him a fiver to buy him a glass hammer , he bought him one from Woolworths . guys name was Buzz Barr I think.Deke

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[The Godfather]

I'll send my boys round to Mr15 and they'll advise him on his spelling.

Don