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Ahhh I understand, must be frustrating especially when you've done a full time apprenticeship.

Cheers M107, btw what are the 5ww's? Is it the same as the guys I used to have to sit with that where trying to do a full apprenticeship in a year? I am too old to do industrial so domestic sign offs would be fine, sick and tired of ripping up floorboards and getting cables behind a 6"...

I was mainly industrial, 3 phase, risers switch gear, pyro, trunking, tray work and conduit bashing in the past but have a few mates who are builders and want to get in to property renovation myself (sick and tired of the daily grind of working for corporates) so want to develop, oversea...

was or am an ex sparks wishing to renew my papers so need as much advice as possible, I am or was JIB graded and did my 236/1 and 236/2 many years ago and my apprenticeship was served at EIL before I moved to Matthew Hall before I went in to cabling and computers. What I would like to know is...