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I think I now have the information I need to get something sorted. I'm planning to get a 2 channel controller with either a wired or wireless thermostat. And I will look to tomorrow to see if there is a thermostatic control on the cylinder and if not, consider whether to fit one. Hopefully this...

Pro Dave Thanks - I think i'm finally starting to understand.  The Drayton LP112 you linked me to says it has common timings for heating and hot water. Is it ok to go for the "top of the range"  which allows for separate timings for heating and hot water? See here ...

Thanks for the further advice. Pro dave - sorry to keep asking what are probably dumb questions, but what is the difference between a 2 channel programmer and the Salus r500 programmer which NoZSpark says is a single. Link below to a page with the Salus rt500 manual on it...

Many thanks for all the responses, which have been very helpful. To respond to the questions : Wiring from the cylinder to the boiler would be a bit of a struggle, but should be doable The flue is vertical I'm not sure if the tank has a stat attached to it - will check on Monday when I am...

Steptoe Sorry, don't know if the Salus 500 is 1 or 2 channel. Have tried pasting a link to the manual but cannot do that yes cos I am a newbie to the forum

NoZSpark Only just getting to grips with the "system" so not sure how to control the hot water independently of the heating as will want to do in the warmer weather. Thanks for the tip on how the rt500 works.

It's not a combi boiler, for sure. There is a hot water cylinder which I assume is fed from the boiler The bolier itself is a Warmflow Bluebird. Many thanks for the help.

I have just acquired a house with a  Warmflow Bluebird Oil boiler - probably installed in 2004. There is no programmer attached to the system at all.  It seems almost too simple. The only " controls" are : An ordinary electrical on/off switch ( Marked " Boiler" in felt tip ) wired to the...