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oh indeed,  fed up to have got in this mess, i should have spotted it.  id like to think the spark would have when he wired an extractor fan off the cloakroom light for me as part of that redecoration as he knew i was considering a rewire elsewhere in the house...but i can't pass the blame on to...

I'm not sure I follow you.  current situation is the j/box under the landing floor which is wired as the rose to the cloakroom light (ground floor, directly under the recently fitted and tiled bathroom)  2 wires from the j/box disappear through joists, 2 if my measurement is correct, and one is...

Sorry Tony,  could you link me to the other places this has been discussed?  It is honestly my first time asking for advice on this, and despite a long Google I haven't found it discussed elsewhere, which surprised me as with screw terminal junction boxes very common in underfloor locations I'd...

I'm doing some wiring at home, typical 1930s house, wiring in a less than perfect state, so as I renovate/decorate each room I'm updating it.  I am keen to get all work checked and approved by building control/certified electrician as by the time I'm finished the rewiring would be extensive...