5500 caught in 5 weeks

[ianmacd]

People spend more time today worrying about doing 31 rather than 29.5 that they aren't concentrating on the road, most aren;t concentrating anyway and some of the speed cameras cause people to panic and brake\swerve etc... regardless of hwo fast they were travelling. It all needs a revamp.

And thats a very good point. Cameras are more likely to cause accidents than stop them which is why they do not put them at accident backspots as they would cause more accidents.

 

[Apache]

Thats your satnav for ya !they shouldnt be allowed on the windscreen it blocks vision and when muppets have the light on bright during the night the should be shot..

Theory - I couldn't disagree with you more strongly! I think my TomTom is the single biggest improvement in my driving safety even over and above my Advanced Motorist course!

If I drive somewhere I don't have to concentrate on a map on the passenger seat, a post it with motorway junctions jotted on it etc. I get in the car and 'Jane' gives me correct directions in plenty of time! All I have to concentrate on is my driving, not the route.

 

[Apache]

As far as the speed issues goes I do not believe speed kills, driver error kills. Inappropriate speed kills, but that is driver not the speed doing the killing. If you drive past a school doing 40mph at 3.30pm you deserve the points, the fine and even a ban! It is irresponsible and dangerous. Doing 80 or 90mph on a motorway in the early hours of the morning is no more or less dangerous than 70mph. Actually you could argue that getting there faster would lead to less time in the car and less driver fatigue.

Personally I think speed limits should go up 10mph between 10pm-7am in urban areas and I am all for unlimited speeds on motorways.

If you look, more accidents happen at low speed. Tailgating is much more of an issue than speed, so often I am happily cruising on a motorway and people keep pulling into my separation distance. Makes me so mad. In this day and age I'm sure we could have a tailgating camera!

Speed cameras are 99% revenue 1% safety.

 

[ianmacd]

Theory - I couldn't disagree with you more strongly! I think my TomTom is the single biggest improvement in my driving safety even over and above my Advanced Motorist course!If I drive somewhere I don't have to concentrate on a map on the passenger seat, a post it with motorway junctions jotted on it etc. I get in the car and 'Jane' gives me correct directions in plenty of time! All I have to concentrate on is my driving, not the route.

You have the female voice? Aren't you concerned she will get you lost?

 

[spinlondon]

There are lots of arguments for both higher and lower speed limits.

The introduction of 20mph limits in urban areas appears to have reduced the number of accidents in those areas. That's according to stastistics anyway.

Having higher speed limits on Motorways would only work, if the standard of british drivers increased.

I have driven/riden over quite a bit of europe, and it would seem that British drivers are the worst.

No good having an unlimited speed limit on the Motorway, if you come barreling along at 135mph, only to find someone driving at 70mph whilst overtaking someone else driving at 69mph.

I find on most motorways in Europe, people overtake as quickly as possible, and then pull over out the way.

On Crete, drivers will move over on to the hard shoulder to let you past if you catch up with them. If you find a line of cars traveling at the speed limit, the car in front always has a British driver.

In France drivers will 99% of the time leave space for Motorcycles to filter past.

In England, on a three lane Motorway, completely empty, there will always be someone in the middle or outside lane.

It's like sods law or something.

 

[roys]

I prefer to call her 'Bitching Betty' flipping 're-calculating' is her favorite expression.

 

[a1]

It's not just a black and white 'don't speed and you won;t get a ticket',

I have yet to see someone get a speeding ticket for NOT speeding!.

So I think, Yes, it is Black and white.

Same with the comment on "Speed cameras and everyone slams on". It is what I meant with my statement on "Gatsos".

Every Gatso, I pass - I don't slam on, because I know I am doing the spped limit or less. Quick glance at the speedo every know and again is all it takes.

Yes, I do agree, as I often say, people are doing the limit or under (Or if they're speeding), they slam on / slow down - to about 20 MPH in a 30 or 40. :_|

With regard to te autobahm in Germany. There are different speed limits for different weather.

I could argue all day. But I am NOT.

Just remember! Drive slower & Drive Safely.

Better to get there late, than not at all.

 

[PBC_1966]

And I am also a stronger beliver in getting rid of the law that states that the police has to display signs saying that there are speed cameras there, whether there temporary or perminant.

That's something which I find dictinctly odd. Downright bizarre, in fact.

If you had just thrown a brick through a jewelry store window when you felt the long arm of the law on your shoulder, could you get out of trouble by arguing that the arrest was unfair because there weren't signs posted in the street saying the police might be looking for people breaking into stores? Of course not. So what twisted logic is it that demands signs for speed cameras?

I do not believe that in general the speed limits in this country are in any way onerous. They're often inconsistent and illogical, but rarely unreasonably low for the conditions.

My main concern with speed cameras, and the penalties associated with them, is that they lack any trace of discretion. The driver who does not set out to speed but accidentally strays to 36 mph for 100 yards on one occasion before noticing and easing off (and that's most of us, at some time or another) gets hit with exactly the same penalty as the driver who deliberately drives the whole way at 50 mph. Is that fair?

When speeds were enforced solely by police officers on the beat, and when those officers still had some common sense, they could easily tell those two driver apart and apply discretion. That's completely gone with the automated systems.

So in general, I have sympathy with somebody who gets snapped during an accidental short period of slightly excess speed because of the unfairness of the punishment which is handed out to him. But if you go speeding right through a 30 mph zone at 50 mph, then I really don't think you have much to complain about when the ticket arrives.

than 40 years ago. Back then they had no speed limit on some roads as it was only introduced during the oil crisis.

The 70 mph speed limit was introduced in 1965, applying at that time to all previously unrestricted roads.

 

[Theorysparky]

On Crete, drivers will move over on to the hard shoulder to let you past if you catch up with them. If you find a line of cars traveling at the speed limit, the car in front always has a British driver.

yep that was me last August !!!!!

until i realised after getting a few choice hand signals from the locals

as for the empty lanes...

M40 inside lane A43 to Thame nearly always empty

cruise control on 70 sit in it and watch the world go by

 

[revjames]

this is how we deal with cameras in vans here.......

 

[Andy™]

Sorry Guys,There is no argument for not to have cameras. The "They make all this money on us" is an old outdate and lame excuse.

Don't speed, you won't get caught.

I understand what you mean about the roadworks Andy. But we still have to do the set speed limit.

No-one does the speed limit all of the time.

But, I am all for speed cameras as I have said on here many times before.

More so, the Hand held laser ones.

The static Gatso ones are a waste of time (Normally) as people know they are there and they slow down to pass them, only to put their foot down again, once they've passed the white road markings.

And I am also a stronger beliver in getting rid of the law that states that the police has to display signs saying that there are speed cameras there, whether there temporary or perminant.

I was caught speeding 14 Years or so ago. I accepted it as I knew the speed limit and I chose to break that limit for my boss at the time. It was no good me whiging about it.

speed doesnt kill. innapropriate speed does

2 examples

clear day, good weather, empty motorway, can see for miles. can easily go 80/85. gatso, and your getting points. police, probably wouldnt do anything, unless your also on your phone, smoking and playing with sat nav

bad weather, seriously reduced visibility, school finishing time, 30MPH limit, you travel excessivly at 30. gatso: nothing. police: expect to be stopped

problem in this country is, many speed limits dont match the road conditions, which means drivers are more likely to ignore them

many motorways in germany have no speed limit, and they dont have loads of accidents because of it