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far2many

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Good afternoon,

I was hoping you might be able to help.

After being let down by several electricians saying they were coming then not turning up my brother arranged for his mate an electrician to come and put up two LED ceiling lights for me. They are:

Dar LUT0675 Luther 6 Light Crystal Semi Flush Ceiling Light, Antique Brass​


I have attached an image of the light and of the wiring that was in the rose before being hung.

There is a switch on the wall with three rocker switches on it. One to turn the upstairs light on/off. One to turn the downstairs light on/off. One to turn the outside front door light on/off (its literally on the other side of the switch on the outside wall).

The upstairs light works.
The downstairs light turns off and on. However, when it is dark you can see that the LED's are lit up a bit. Should electricity be getting through when it is turned off? Why is it only lit a little bit? Is it a danger to the house?
The outside light did work at first. Now it doesn't. The bulb was taken out and brought in and placed in a lamp where it does work.

Any thoughts of what this is and if its a danger? I will obviously get a different electrician in but they are all booked out well in advance. One of the other ones i texted him this and he has blanked me. I'm trying to work out if my house is imminently in danger.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 

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Don't worry. LEDs glowing when switched off is a well known phenomena. It happens because they can glow with very low current indeed, and that can be capacitively induced in the wiring. It's especially common on two way circuits because of the extra wiring used. Absolutely no danger but if it annoys you ask your spark to fit a device called a snubber which will stop it.
No idea about your outside light, but with wiring having been disturbed a loose connection is possible.
 
Just to add a bit more info on your LED's glowing problem..

(1) Traditional filament lamps require higher currents for them to illuminate than LED's hence why LED power ratings are much lower. (Power = Voltage x Current).

(2) If the supply voltage hasn't changed but a 7watt LED lamp can produce similar light output to a traditional 100watt lamp... Then that is approx 14 times less current needed for LED's to illuminate, (or just glow a bit!) than traditional filament lamps..

(3) Electricity can be induced between conductors close to each other that don't actually touch.. (This is similar to the methods used for wireless charging of electric toothbrushes and mobile phones).

(4) Longer cable runs between switches are an increased area for potential problems of inducing electrical energy between non-live conductors that are close to other live conductors..
e.g. especially where two-way switching is done between hall & landing etc.. so the interconnecting cables are longer than a basic single lamp & switch in an average room!!

(5) Low energy lamps glowing due to induced voltages is not an uncommon problem, (Not just LED's also Compact Fluorescent lamps!)..
 
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Did the electrician unscrew and inspect the wiring of the wall switch at any time ?
The terminal screws magically loosen over time.
So one or more of the wires to the outside light may have been disturbed and are now no longer making contact.
Carefully tighten all the terminals with an insulated screwdriver.
 
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