European Harmonisation lol

[Chri5]

Hi all.

Am I right or wrong in thinking the the whole of Europe is supposed to be working to some kind of standard? Isn't that why we had to change the colours of our conductors etc.

I'm working in France at the mo and from what I can see there isn't a standard of any kind.

The cables are run in copex with red and blue conductors, inside walls with no adherence to zones whatsoever. No glands on the stuff either, it's just rammed into the JB if it'll fit or if not then the conductors go in by themselves.When they use three core cable (which is rock hard and well difficult to use) they revert to brown and blue so you get red to brown connections all over the place. They use orange and purple for switch wires as well and sometimes a black or the blue. It's a nightmare, I've had more belts in a week than in the last 10 years.

Connections are made inside wall cavities or celings with choccy block and then just plastered over lol. bad day explode

The list of other things we'd be hauled over the coals for is endless.

It makes me wonder why the UK rules are so damn strict because I don't hear of people being electrocuted on a regular basis.

Any comments?

 

[batty]

Come on this is France what do you expect.

 

[Andy™]

the whole thing is a scam, you sound surprised at this?

 

[Terry W]

Connections are made inside wall cavities or celings with choccy block and then just plastered over lol. bad day explode

the dirty french *******s.....

 

[ProDave]

When are you going to learn.

The UK is the only country that obeys and implements EU directives.

The rest simply ignore them.

 

[sprocketflup]

So true ProDave

 

[a1]

Have you got / can you take any pics for us please Chri5?

Many thanks,

Admin.

 

[sellers]

Electrics abroad are ****! Only decent countries I've seen have been Germany and Switzerland

 

[Badger]

dont forget badger land :slap

 

[Chri5]

I'll see what I can do. I'm coming home soon and my camera phone is archaic.

 

[Evans Electric]

I was led to believe that we harmonised our colours (which I thought was madness) to make it easy for the expected continental sparks who were going to come here to work.

No.1 Most Stupid idea ....... Change all the cable colours ( Problems will go on for years)

No.2 Most Stupid idea........ Change the voltage range definitions, so the term LOW represents from 50 ---1000 volts How utterly bloody stupid can you get!!!!

 

[Andy™]

well, 500-1000v is quite low compared to the grid at 400,000v

 

[professional]

The British Government were advised NOT to change the colour system for fixed electrical systems but vested interests won the day ....

 

[Evans Electric]

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[Andy™]

just wait until we need a sticker on the consumer unit saying 'low voltage'. wonder how many people will suddenly think its safe to go play with it

 

[kerching]

If we didn't have rules, where would we be?....France

If we had too many rules, where would we be?...Germany

If we had too many rules that were only followed [to the best of their abilities] by the honest and coscientious few, where would we be? U.K.

Just heard on News that they are to Investigate Doctors and dentisits fraudulent claims. One Doctor was still claiming overtime from a Hospital that he stopped working at 7 years ago. Some were claiming for dead patients or fictitious ones! FFS are we the only 'honest' profession there is left??

Next we will be finding that Members of Parliament [who we voted for and are in effect employed by us] are bent!....then where would we.....................oh, hang on a minute.......................bunch of freaking bent ********s the lot of 'em.............. :coat

 

[lkayelectrical]

Kerching you been watching al Murray

I'm sure they will put a sticker on it soon that seems to sort every thing :-/ soon there will be no room left for any more stickers

 

[~Sparky~]

We were asked by a customer a few years back to wire a new build in France for him, as we were unsure on regulations we called Select Technical and we were informed there are different regulations from 1 part of France to another so the safest thing to do would be employ a spark from the area the new house would be in