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Oddbod

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Hi,

In our meter cupboard we have a large switch box labelled B&P Controls BPDC 102PC. The switch has labelled positions Off, and 2. The switch is set to a third unlabelled position (meant to be 1?). Switchbox cabling consists of a pair of cables from the meter, a pair of cables to an isolator (and then on to the three consumer units), an earth cable and a bloomin' great inch thick SWA cable.

Last week I finally (after three years) got round to tracing the SWA. It runs to an open front garage where it terminates in a CU which feeds a 32A blue commando socket.

Not sure if it is relevant but the earthing is PME.

The whole thing was probably done in 1982/3 when the house was substantially altered. Everything looks like it was done professionally. My thought was that this is a transfer switch for plugging in a generator but why would it be a commando socket and not a plug? And why a CU? There is no other evidence of a generator, no earth rod, tie downs etc.

I'm not intending to do anything with it. I did some minor DIY home electrics back in the days when it was allowed, but I've not seen this sort of thing before, and I'm not about to meddle with switches and cables that size! This is more curiosity than anything. It's not causing any problems and I don't have any need to wire in a generator.

(Still trying to work out how to attach images!)

Oddbod

 
Thanks Andy, looks like I need 5 posts to attach images - so three more to go.

(The whole house is odd, Three CUs in the meter cupboard. Five more in various outside locations, ten light switches in the lounge. It all looks to have been done professionally but it sure looks like someone got a bit carried away!)

 
Not sure if this helps but B & D made electrically

operated garage doors.

 
Thanks Technician. Mind you this box is the same width and height as a 16-way CU and twice as deep, and the SWA is 25mm. I sure wouldn't like to get in the way of any door it was powering!  Mind you I do live less than a mile from Aldermaston - so perhaps there is a nuclear bunker round here somewhere!

I'll post the pics as soon as I can. 

 
I thought it was normal practice for a generator hookup lead to have a plug on both ends.  :innocent   :yellow card   :coat

 
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"only if they are 13a plugs" 

When I was 11 or 12 - far too many moons ago - I picked up the end of one of leads that a builder had left plugged into a live socket. (In fairness this was in deepest Cornwall where electricity was a new fangled invention - still is in some places).

It b****y well hurt!

(Sorry, just trying to get my post count to 5)

 
I'm up the road in Thatcham if you want me to drop by & take a look.

why would it be a commando socket and not a plug?
You will probably find it is an inlet. it should have pin's inside. reason being if it were tother way round you would have pins on show on the generator lead, genny running cable not plugged in = live pins on show

Or it could be a feed out to a mobile home set up?

 
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No idea?? Big socket to feed a welder or a big pottery kiln or something. Something lashed up [using the big switch thingy] that someone pinched from work?? Pictures needed??? [curiosity is killing me!!]

john....

 
Hi M107,  very many thanks for the offer. I'm not sure it's fair to waste any of your time yet. As I said it's only curiosity rather than a problem.  We will need a load of stuff doing at some stage in the future, so if it is Ok I'll PM you when we get to that point. I know Thatcham well, more Chinese restaurants than Peking. The second one as you head from the square towards the A4 and Newbury being our favourite.

Yeah the fact that its a female connector is what's got me puzzled too - as you say you'd need a widow maker to connect it to a genny.

Thanks Kerching and John (Apprentice87).  I thought it was an HD output too until I traced the cable from the the switchbox. I've got one end of a length of 25mm SWA that is a dead ringer for a transfer switch and the other end for a 32A output. Weird.

I think I'll have prod round the connector with a multimeter tomorrow and see if anything is live - If so it can't be a generator input.

OK, fifth post, lets see if I can put the photos up...

Yehah! - looks like I can... here goes.  First is the head (meter cupboard) end, second is the remote end.

meter end.jpg

garage end.jpg

 
Might clean the sink then.........

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Dunno about the sink but I'm sure it'd give your intestines a darn good scouring.

Someone keeps giving me the stuff - `i gave the last bottle to a tree surgeon - figured it'd help him him get up and down the tree faster. He thought it was 2-stroke mix 'till he opened it. Then he thought I'd nicked it from Porton Down.

 
Hmmmm, do not think it was put in by a "proper" electrician, as, although i have not got X-Ray eyes and cannot see what is in the enclosure with the switch, it appears that the SWA has no overcurrent or earth fault protection... The switch fuse above the socket outlet is installed at the wrong end of the cable you see!!

Get M107 to have a look!!!!

john....

 
Hmmmm, do not think it was put in by a "proper" electrician, as, although i have not got X-Ray eyes and cannot see what is in the enclosure with the switch, it appears that the SWA has no overcurrent or earth fault protection... The switch fuse above the socket outlet is installed at the wrong end of the cable you see!!

Get M107 to have a look!!!!

john....
If it WERE an inlet for a generator, then the switchfuse is by the source of power so in the correct place.

Question to OP.  What happens to the house supply if you turn the switch?  Does the electricity to the house go off?

Obviously make sure nothing important is on when you try that experiment.

 
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