i was hoping to get on the 2330 course at my local college and then do as you say,(re: http://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1316) but i think the available spaces have been taken up with people already in the trade, I'll see what happens then really push for it.(if you know what i mean)Good for you, it is never too late to become a spark (unless you are dead already) seen some work by some that looks like they should be.Do you know of any friendly electricians in your area where you might be able to get some experiance as a sparks mate, say weekends for free or very little wage?