Installing Repacement Kitchen Spot Lights

[rarmour]

I have just replaced two kitchen spot lights driven from a single switch.  They work fine and when I test them with a mains testing screwdriver, the metal frames are not live.  ( I checked the mains testing screwdriver works fine)  so all should be well. BUT I have a mains testing pen and I don't quite know what it is telling me.  When the correct fuse is out (their are two lighting circuits) the pen glows from a small area around the ceiling mount.  When the light is lit the whole frame produces a pen glow.

are they safe?  Thank you

 

[NozSpark]

Those neon screwdrivers and non contact voltage indicators are noted for being unreliable and even possibly dangerous.

There is half a chance that there is a disconnected earth in the circuit...

BTW the earth wires are the most important ones in the installation

 

[rarmour]

There are only a live and neutral wire in the lighting feed circuit. 

 

[Andy™]

then you must NOT install a light that requires and earth. either get the circuit re-wired or change the lights for something that doesnt need an earth

 

[rarmour]

none of the lighting circuits in the house have an earth wire.  Looks like I will need to change the fitting.

 

[Andy™]

and possibly the other lights in the house...

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

This voltage indicator pen you have, do this. wear a jumper / fleece or sweatshirt. rub the pen up and down the arm, fast. shows how good they are?

 

[kerching]

get your neon screwdriver

put the end of the driver onto, for example, the fixing screw on the outside of a socket

put finger on handle end of driver as if testing the socket

rub foot on floor like a demented bull

driver lights up!

well it does for me, but many have said i am full of bull

just saying

 

[rarmour]

point taken.