isolation of live cable...

[matt.leung]

what is the best way to terminate a live cable that needs to be enclosed within a wall which needs to be plastered over.....

 

[bengie]

You need to isolate the cable before it gets into the wall at least but preferably remove it from source. Buried live cables that go no where aren't allowed, they don't conform to bs7671.

 

[matt.leung]

the thing is that we can not find the other end of the cable... at first we though that it came from the lighting circuit mainly the switch but no luck, and for sure it is not coming off the kitchen ring... at the mo it is terminated in connector block...

 

[bengie]

Sorry but you either need to look harder until you find the cable or the other option is to put something on the end of cable that is visible on the surface like a spur so that it's obvious that there's a cable the.

Leaving a live buried cable that terminates in the wall is quite dangerous as anybody drilling or chasing the wall will have no idea that there is a live cable there.

 

[matt.leung]

the cable is located next to the cooker switch and fan isolation switch....

 

[bengie]

How close? If it's in line with them then terminate the cable in of those 2 boxes with a connector block and label it. Job done.

 

[matt.leung]

it is about 80mm above the two back boxes...

 

[bengie]

Then I'd either stick it in a box with a spur on it or relocate one of the other boxes if possible, simply losing it isn't an option sadly.

 

[matt.leung]

would i be able to place the terminated cable into a back box, and put a flat plate over it, then enclose the whole thing in the plaster so you do not see the flat plate...

 

[BS3036]

Obviously not, as the whole point is so people know it's there.

 

[Andy™]

would i be able to place the terminated cable into a back box, and put a flat plate over it, then enclose the whole thing in the plaster so you do not see the flat plate...

kinda defeats the point. the blank will need to be visible. however, if the cable goes directly upwards from another accessory (you say its 80mm above cooker, but not which direction the cable run is), then its in a 'safe' zone from that accessory, so you wouldnt need to add a blank plate

 

[matt.leung]

the end of the cable is 80mm above the cooker switch, and about 20mm left from the door frame, so it is in a safe zone...

 

[Dane]

trace it, get a fuse finder or something similar.

I wouldn't be happy walking from a job terminating a cable in a wall safe zone or not.

 

[Andy™]

the end of the cable is 80mm above the cooker switch, and about 20mm left from the door frame, so it is in a safe zone...

the doorframe has nothing to do with safe zones.

 

[matt.leung]

no but it is directly above the cooker switch which is a safe zone...

 

[Andy™]

no but it is directly above the cooker switch which is a safe zone...

providing it goes directly up, then your sorted. now just to safely terminate the end.

can you not get into the ceiling/under floor above and put it into a JB there instead?

 

[danny7299]

Yeah how.... Howdy cowboy!

 

[matt.leung]

at first i thought that it came down from the lighting switch, but no luck, and it is not on the kitchen ring... the walls are due to be plastered soon and i am not back there until the 4th of Jan.. I need to ask the client who is also going to plaster the wall not to plaster that small area and i will do it once to get onto site and terminate this cable....

i think that the only solution will be is to back box it and fit a flat plate on it.... the only thing is that it is going to look dam ugly and the client won't be happy....

what else could i do....

 

[Doc Hudson]

at first i thought that it came down from the lighting switch, but no luck, and it is not on the kitchen ring... the walls are due to be plastered soon and i am not back there until the 4th of Jan.. I need to ask the client who is also going to plaster the wall not to plaster that small area and i will do it once to get onto site and terminate this cable.... i think that the only solution will be is to back box it and fit a flat plate on it.... the only thing is that it is going to look dam ugly and the client won't be happy....

what else could i do....

Surely if the wall is to be plastered can't the old cable be physically removed and the wall made good afterwards?

Doc H.

 

[matt.leung]

the cable dissappears behind the door frame period.....