moving a socket

[paul b b]

Hello gents,

I have to move a socket.

1 prob, to get to the socket that the ring is from is a right bugger to get to, can I, or is it bad practice to put a JB in the loft and run a spur down to the new location?

many thanks

paul

 

[Riggy]

No problem with what you suggest.

An alternative (and my preferred way) would be to run two cables down from the loft, break into the ring and splice the cables on (butt crimps and heat shrinks - others will prefer Wagos) hey presto, you new socket is now properly part of the ring, and when they ask you to put another alogside it in two years time it's easy.

 

[paul b b]

No problem with what you suggest.An alternative (and my preferred way) would be to run two cables down from the loft, break into the ring and splice the cables on (butt crimps and heat shrinks - others will prefer Wagos) hey presto, you new socket is now properly part of the ring, and when they ask you to put another alogside it in two years time it's easy.

Ahhhh ok, are you sugesting to use 2 JBs then? one from left of existing and one from the right, sounds a better idea

thanks

 

[roys]

Should be able to use one JB, by cutting into one leg of the ringmain, put each L&N into their own terminal and then 2 new T&E cables connected into each of the connections and then down to the new socket, so the new socket is now in the ring. Think this is what Riggy is meaning as well.

Cheers Steve

 

[batty]

No problem with what you suggest.An alternative (and my preferred way) would be to run two cables down from the loft, break into the ring and splice the cables on (butt crimps and heat shrinks - others will prefer Wagos) hey presto, you new socket is now properly part of the ring, and when they ask you to put another alogside it in two years time it's easy.

Sounds a lot of work for small power likely to be used. I tend to use 4mm for spurs that way if they do want more than one socket you are covered.

Batty

 

[sellers]

Sounds a lot of work for small power likely to be used. I tend to use 4mm for spurs that way if they do want more than one socket you are covered.Batty

can you spur of a ring in 4mm as many times as you want? Ie, 3sockets spured of in 4mm? As it can carry over 32amps?

 

[batty]

can you spur of a ring in 4mm as many times as you want? Ie, 3sockets spured of in 4mm? As it can carry over 32amps?

Should not be a problem as circuit breaker will limit current.

 

[Andy™]

Should not be a problem as circuit breaker will limit current.

and if you have you 4mm from a socket next to the board, you will risk overloading one leg of the ring. a ring is only designed for a max of 13A to be taken at any point (but if terminated properly, you could safely draw more current). doing what you suggest could easily pull 32A down one bit of 2.5mm

 

[Nicky Tesla]

one leg can support 27amp all day anyway, so 32amp for a short period shouldn't in reality be a problem. Why dont anyone do 25amp breakers?

 

[Andy™]

one leg can support 27amp all day anyway, so 32amp for a short period shouldn't in reality be a problem. Why dont anyone do 25amp breakers?

doesnt seem to be much demand for 25A MCB's. ive always wondered why they are not used more. there is a large gap between 20A and 32A, but much less between other ratings

and 32A though a 2.5 for short period may be fine, but it wont last long if its often loaded live that

 

[Apache]

one leg can support 27amp all day anyway, so 32amp for a short period shouldn't in reality be a problem. Why dont anyone do 25amp breakers?

But they do NT

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/69569/Electrical-Supplies/Three-Phase/MCBs-Incomers/Crabtree-25A-1-Pole-Type-B-Curve-MCB

 

[wozz]

i often install 4mm 25A radials, wholsalers keeps hager ones on the shelf.

 

[batty]

But they do NT http://www.screwfix.com/prods/69569/Electrical-Supplies/Three-Phase/MCBs-Incomers/Crabtree-25A-1-Pole-Type-B-Curve-MCB

Hager, Merlin Gerin and Square D do 25 amp only popular ones like Wylex and Mk don't.

 

[Nicky Tesla]

Hager, Merlin Gerin and Square D do 25 amp only popular ones like Wylex and Mk don't.

ye but no but, the wholesalers dont generally stock them

 

[batty]

ye but no but, the wholesalers dont generally stock them

Probably cause theres not much call for them.