notifiable work.... ??

[matt.leung]

is fitting a heat detector a notifiable job also fitting a IP rated JB to the outside wall of the property.

matty

 

[The Godfather]

A heat detector is not notifiable work unless it is in a Special Location.

If the IP rated JB does not supply equipment beyond the equipotential zone and is not supplied from a special location, I would say not.

The Godfather

 

[Danny]

I think it is as you're supplying wiring/power to the outside of a property ...

 

[Jono Pashley]

I think it is as you're supplying wiring/power to the outside of a property ...

Not necessarily. See Page 8 and 9 of Approved Doc P for clarification.

 

[The Godfather]

I think it is as you're supplying wiring/power to the outside of a property ...

Perhaps Matt will confirm, but has not indicated so.

The Godfather

 

[Danny]

Ah yes ... no exposed connections .. i'll shut up then ..

 

[a1spark]

A heat detector is not notifiable work unless it is in a Special Location.If the IP rated JB does not supply equipment beyond the equipotential zone and is not supplied from a special location, I would say not.

The Godfather

I agree with the above comments, and add two additional points..

1. The smoke detector installation could become notifiable if a dedicated circuit was run in for it from the consumer unit.

2.If a j.b is being installed on the outside wall then what is its intended purpose...on its own it may not be notifiable, but it may become so depending on what it ends up supplying..

 

[Andy™]

I agree with the above comments, and add two additional points..1. The smoke detector installation could become notifiable if a dedicated circuit was run in for it from the consumer unit.

2.If a j.b is being installed on the outside wall then what is its intended purpose...on its own it may not be notifiable, but it may become so depending on what it ends up supplying..

1: if you installed it from an exisiting circuit, i.e lighting, then its not notifiable since its not a new circuit, just an extension to existing. same as if you connected to a 'spare' MCB...

 

[matt.leung]

the IP rated JB will follow on to be used for garden deck lighting which i know is notifiable

 

[a1spark]

the IP rated JB will follow on to be used for garden deck lighting which i know is notifiable

:coat

 

[jibspark]

1: if you installed it from an exisiting circuit, i.e lighting, then its not notifiable since its not a new circuit, just an extension to existing. same as if you connected to a 'spare' MCB...

so you could potentially put a new circuit in if there was an mcb already there and it wouldn't be notifiable?

 

[a1spark]

1: if you installed it from an exisiting circuit, i.e lighting, then its not notifiable since its not a new circuit, just an extension to existing. same as if you connected to a 'spare' MCB...

Yes Andy Agreed on the first part of your post...in my post I was generalising on when installing a smoke / Heat detector how it could become notifiable......in this situation it could indeed be connected to a spare mcb and therefore be notifiable as being a new circuit

....or am I getting something wrong here ?

a1spark.

 

[Andy™]

so you could potentially put a new circuit in if there was an mcb already there and it wouldn't be notifiable?

if the circuit is already there, then it may not be notifiable. depends how the circuit got there O)

 

[extension15]

If your registered with the competent person scheme.....

For the sake of

 

[Andy™]

If your registered with the competent person scheme.....For the sake of

 

[Evans Electric]

Reading this thread, I start to think that all this notifying stuff must be the biggest load of scrotum based sphericals in the trade.

If the work is in the kitchen, garden or bathroom youmust have a Part P sparks but if its the lounge or bedroom you could have a non Peed sparks . Or option 3 , DIY it and dont worry about it !! Mien Gott !! What a system.

 

[extension15]

id rather the

 

[Andy™]

If there is any doubt about the electrical work you are doing, that ventures in and around special locations or ventures outside (and not all electricians works is in these areas), then perhaps

 

[extension15]

Personally gentleman, I don't care if you are registered or not...

Do the job according to BS7671 (or exceed or meet), test accordingly, issue cert.

The job should be safe..

..............

 

[Andy™]

Personally gentleman, I don't care if you are registered or not...Do the job according to BS7671 (or exceed or meet), test accordingly, issue cert.

The job should be safe..

..............

and as we all know, if you dont notify it, your only gonna get caught if its dangerous.... and still end up with no punishment for not notifying it!