Proteus Rcd Smoking

[Oakley]

Hi all. Today I installed a proteus double stacked consumer unit. After installing and before testing the installation I powered up, without any mcbs switched on. Within 20-30 seconds I noticed smoke coming from the first rcd. I disconnected it and left the second one in, which within the same time once I powered back up started to buzz for a couple of seconds and then started to smoke.

I checked the mains polarity. which was correct

Could they be a faulty batch or another problem?

Many thanks Oakley

 

[Andy™]

Posting the same question twice will not get you an answer any quicker

 

[NozSpark]

I've had this before, and it was due to either reversed polarity or supplies and loads reversed

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Well.... [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]for smoke to be coming out, current must be flowing...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]for current to be flowing... Something must be on... or some electricity must be flowing down a path it is not intended to flow down..[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]You don't actually say what rating the RCD's are.. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt](not the 30ma trip rating)....[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]the MAX load rating??[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I assume 63A or 80A...????[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]You haven't got a 25A / 30ma RCD have you...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]e.g. http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CPR25.htmlhttp://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CPR25.html[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]and running more than 25A through it?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]TBH..[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]you really should be just discussing this with your supplier...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]It's their problem to supply you with proper kit[/SIZE]

Unless to DID connect it up wrong first!

[SIZE=10.5pt]you should have sealed all the gaps with silicone to stop the smoke escaping!!![/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt] opcorn  [/SIZE]

 

[ProDave]

Did you push the TEST button on the RCD?

Was it a pre wired CU?

SOME makes of double pole RCD will go up in smoke if you you have the input power on the wrong set of terminals when you press the test button. Compounded by the fact that it's not always clear which is the input, the top or the bottom.

 

[Jono Pashley]

http://www.nhs.uk/smokefree

I always recommend my RCDs go here and try to quit smoking it isnt good for them

 

[Oakley]

Both rcds were pre wired 80amp rated. I've never came across this before so I am pretty confused.

I did ring proteus not long after posting on here. They think both rcds are faulty, but I'm not so sure both would be.

I put my test lamps on the main switch in front of the rcds between live and earth and the first rcd tripped, and pressed the test button on the second rcd and the first one also tripped again, so I'm pretty sure this one is faulty.

 

[Sharpend]

Posting the same question twice will not get you an answer any quicker

Well it was two Rcd's :slap

 

[kerching]

I think that the problem is that they are Proteus!.....same applies to Tamlite, RPP, Centaur, Tamlex

Just my bigoted and blinkered view

 

[binky]

both RCDs would be from same batch - so both would stand a good chance of being faulty

 

[ProDave]

The only time I have had this was as I already said, the input was connected to the wrong side.

In the event of a trip, the release coil is energised and then the power should be cut off when it opens.

In the case of power in the wrong end, the release coil remains energised even after it's opened and is not rated for more than a few mS of operation so it burns out.

Even if this is not power in the wrong end, it still sounds like the same type of fault. the release coil is energising but for whatever reason (faulty mechanism?) the contacts don't open and the release coil burns out.

 

[Evans Electric]

Oakley , saying the word Proteus on here is like refering to Voldemort at Hogwarts .

 

[Blue Duck]

Although if had been a wylex mcb we wouldn't be that surprised either :|

 

[Evans Electric]

.......and Crabtree ..Steeple ... just shows how the trade has degenerated ..............Wylex ...Crabtree... were trusted brands once.

 

[Blue Duck]

Merlin gerin all the way!!! f**k the price the customer is paying not to have his house burnt down... Oh wait merlin is owned by schnider now Eaton? What choice do we have for quality these days?

 

[Blue Duck]

^^^ Was going to suggest that

 

[steptoe]

Ive just priced an SBS Dave board for a client, who knows and realises all the dangers,

he wants to know how much cheaper for a normal board,

Ive simply emailed him back saying I no longer install consumer units that fail to meet the actual requirements of BS7671 are are in fact a half hearted attempt at a cheap alternative,

gave him the reasons why,

Im not sure why he is bothered about a couple of hundred quid when he has just purchased a 350K house tbh, but there you go.