rcd or no RCD

[danny7299]

Hi there

I have to install two Sockets for some water steamers . i have 2 questions

1) i would you make them RCD due to water etc... is this right

2) if they are RCD protected sockets they will be connected to a timer to control on and off., so can some one tell me what type i need , i can only see Passice RCD's in the catolgue. would this be ok or would the RCD need reseting every time the power is off?

many thanks

 

[ianmacd]

I believe you can get active and passive so the active will be the ones you need. Maybe local wholesaler can advise?

 

[Brian 157]

"Active" RCDs are, I believe the type that trip when the power is cut, so if the timer is feeding the sockets (rather than fed from the sockets) you want passive RCDs.

 

[ianmacd]

No I is confussed as I thought it was the other way but I guess they are activly held closed by the power?

 

[Brian 157]

A quick check on MK's website confirms Active RCDs trip when power is cut/voltage drops far enough, passive RCDs don't.

 

[binky]

Hi thereI have to install two Sockets for some water steamers . i have 2 questions

1) i would you make them RCD due to water etc... is this right

need a bit more info to answer that one properly, but generally I go for RCD if appliance involves water and people.

 

[Lurch]

Consult the manufacturers instructions for a start. Is this in a commercial application?

 

[Andy™]

Passive RCD's dont need re-set - the RCD's in your CU are passive

Active RCD's trip off at loss of power and need re-set - more used on RCD sockets/spurs & in line extension lead RCD's etc

 

[danny7299]

Consult the manufacturers instructions for a start. Is this in a commercial application?

yes its commercial , its going in a bakery and they need some sockets for some steamers for bread! yumm yumm

 

[spinlondon]

You could use a suitabley IP rated industrial plug and socket. Some of these have RCD protection.

 

[Lurch]

You could use a suitabley IP rated industrial plug and socket. Some of these have RCD protection.

So do non-industrial ones, e.g. BS1363 plugs and sockets.

 

[spinlondon]

So do non-industrial ones, e.g. BS1363 plugs and sockets.

The IP rating of that standard, would in my opinion not be adequate.

I would prefer to use sockets and plugs to BS ES 60309, and as there is water involved i would like them to also be to BS EN 60529: 1992.

 

[Lurch]

The IP rating of that standard, would in my opinion not be adequate.I would prefer to use sockets and plugs to BS ES 60309, and as there is water involved i would like them to also be to BS EN 60529: 1992.

I missed the bit where it said they would get wet.

 

[Andy™]

id go with the 60309 plug/socket too. does it really need an RCD anyway?

you can get these sockets with built in isolator & RCD if required