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smithjim0001

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Hi all

Im sure that there are loads of you that work for yourself and others that prefer working for someone.

I want to start up on my own but am really nervous about the whole going it alone business.

Is it best just to get my regular wage and live with it or is there much more money to be made on my own.

 
Only go self employed if you enjoy an unrewarding challenge. Everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, it's ****.

 
I went self employed about 2 years ago. I've found it hard graft, often not getting home till 8 or 9 pm, then there's the paperwork, quotes, invoices, certs etc. Only get one day off in a few weeks. If I'm not out 'sparkin' I'm tryin to catch up with paperwork. Still enjoy it though. Andno you won't make your fortune.

 
Why not start your own business and scout for a little weekend work

The weekend money along with your regular wage would be rewarding financially

Then if it gets to the point when you find yourself booking time off work to do your own jobs then you have a decision to make

Just an idea to start the ball rolling

 
These are hard times Smithy, so unless you are lucky or have some good contacts or the offer of a decent contract from a trusted source it might be prudent to stay with your regular wage.

 
Only go self employed if you enjoy an unrewarding challenge. Everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, it's ****.
+1

totally agree with that post,

I worked/subbied all my life until I moved back to UK 3ish years ago when I needed a proper job to get some credit history,

kinda worked out OK for me due to the state of the industry ATM with all the 5day wonders and the economy nosediving,

unless you have good experience and a lot of good contacts then dont give up the day job just yet,

BTW, I work 6 sometimes 7days (sat&sun for myself) a week and most evenings for myself but still not quite enough to give up the regular for.

 
I have to disagree, theres a lot more hassle to it and the days you think why do I bother, but the money is better no matter what anyone says. Stick to your price and do a good job. Someone said to me, 'be remembered for being good, not cheap'

Save some money by while your still employed, buy your stuff while your still employed and get as many customers while your still employed and the switch will be effortless.

 
Old sayings and other bits of Spec-Loc wisdom & thoughts......

1/ No one ever made any money working for someone else.

1a/ BUT also remember those who make most money are those who can employ others to do their work for them!!!!!!!!!!!

2/ Times of recession & hardship are just as good to start a business as boom times....

If you read up on a lot of business gurus you will find that many very successful companies started during times of recession and hardship..

Basically because other business are failing & closing so new business can

seize on the opportunities left where these business failed..

Remember many business fail due to cash flow and because their business have not been fine tuned for changing economic climate....

not necessary because no work out there.

3/ Boom times can be just as difficult to start up because of just as many fly-by-nights jumping on the bandwagon as work seams easy and an abundance.... consider the "Dot.Com" boom & crash every Tom Dick & Harry starting up all over the place.

4/ Successful business are those that apply a sound business model e.g. don't do work for nothing on the hope of promised work later...

free or low priced jobs for non-materialising "promised work" general work out at a loss.

5/ Cheapest doesn't always get the job... Quality, value overall service experience can often be the key...

6/ Most small businesses that fail, do fail within the first 5 years!

if you get into the 6th year you are probably doing something right & have built up a reasonable customer base.

7/ Self employment is Bl00dy hard work... if you want it easy DON'T DO IT!!!

especially the first 5 years building your business (see point 6)

8/ Even if start up businesses fail, many people do not regret "Having-A-Go"

But people with a yearning for self employment who never try it can live in regret saying I wish I had tried this when I was younger!

9/ You have got to do your homework before taking the plunge...

working out what bits you can do yourself & what bits you need others to assist you with..

e.g. bookkeeping & accounts are an area that many overlook... Its NOT just the actual job itself....

10/ Admin & paperwork can take up one hell of a lot of time if you do not manage yourself properly!

11/ DO NOT FORGET THE TAX MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! :_| :_| :_|

do so at your own peril!!!

12/ My brain is now empty..... can I go and have a Wee Wee?

:Blushing :innocent:p

:run

 
Please do not ask any more questions as Spec's brain is now empty , shortly to be followed by his bladder , or was it the other way round?

Reactivating his brain cells usually takes a full 24 days.

 
Why not start your own business and scout for a little weekend workThe weekend money along with your regular wage would be rewarding financially

Then if it gets to the point when you find yourself booking time off work to do your own jobs then you have a decision to make

Just an idea to start the ball rolling
Exactly how I started

 
I'm in my 7th year as a sole trader and am taking a proper job as a service engineer at the end of the month. I stumbled back into the trade after being out for 15 years. So it wasnt really what I wanted. I am still busy and earning a living that some would be jealous of. I work so hard I should be loaded. There are now too many of us and some of the prices I lose jobs on are just not possible to make a living on.

The paper work part pee scammers etc are a bind

However If you want to expand and employ people go for it! if you are good you will prob succede. Plan well and expect 14 hour days dont be too cheap, I'm not and if I stayed I'm sure I would still be busy. Make sure you have good contacts etc.

Just my opinion but NIC approved opens a lot of doors (I dont like em either just treat it as advertising) I wouldnt bother with anyone else.

Dont think you'll get rich sticking to domestic so vary your work.

There are a lot of people just waiting to take your money so get the legals right, payment upon receipt etc. Dont do interest free credit.

Lots will disagree I'm leaving because I hate it all, too much work for too little pay.

When i was commisioning it was more money easier work etc and service work is easy but not quite as much money, still late 20k though and all the perks! Good luck!

 
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