underlights above kitchen sink

[tom1]

is there an issue with underlights on units above the sinks.

thanks

 

[Evans Electric]

In a word.........no.

 

[tom1]

In a word.........no.

good.

thanks

 

[Andy™]

just dont put the switch behind the tap and you should be fine

 

[tom1]

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[steptoe]

you can put a double socket above the sink if you want according to 7671

 

[batty]

I personally would not put an electronic strip light above sink if they do washing up as you could have problems with it and that is speaking through experience.

 

[tom1]

you can put a double socket above the sink if you want according to 7671

i work on 300mm from edge of sink as it says in my building regs book, so a high socket may be.

I personally would not put an electronic strip light above sink if they do washing up as you could have problems with it and that is speaking through experience.

fair point.

although they do have a dishwasher

 

[Andy™]

i work on 300mm from edge of sink as it says in my building regs book, so a high socket may be.

but the building regs book is not 7671...

7671 doesnt say any distance. but its still not a good idea to put a socket behind the sink

 

[Bez]

Comes down to good workmanship I guess, as long as you assess the risks as no two situations are the same.

 

[spinlondon]

300mm from sink, not the drainer, vertically or horizontally.

 

[Lurch]

300mm from sink, not the drainer, vertically or horizontally.

Yet again this is just personal opinion. As has been said several times you can put a socket wherever you want as long as the situation is assessed and suitable measures are taken to prevent a non compliance. You can put a socket in the sink if you want, as long as you make it suitably IP rated.

You can't always apply a fixed rule depending where the sockets, walls and worktops are in relation to each other.

 

[spinlondon]

Yes it's what I do, not a rule or Regulation.

Although I have been told to move a socket further away before now by a BCO, even when I had the socket 300mm away from the sink. I've also been told that the socket should be 300mm from a SS sink drainer before now.

not just the hole where the water goes in.

 

[tom1]

Yes it's what I do, not a rule or Regulation.Although I have been told to move a socket further away before now by a BCO, even when I had the socket 300mm away from the sink. I've also been told that the socket should be 300mm from a SS sink drainer before now.

not just the hole where the water goes in.

that what it says in the building reg book,

i realize that its not in 7671 but if its in a kitchen so notifiable then i would have i would have to comply with both?

 

[Lurch]

that what it says in the building reg book,

This book you mention, is it the building regs itself or the book, a guide to the building regs? If the latter then it is just that, a guide to what to do to comply with the building regs. It may say the best way to do it is just blanketly apply the rule to all jobs and then you're covered. I don;t think either any part of the building regs or and BS actually state there is a regulatory minimum distance.

 

[tom1]

This book you mention, is it the building regs itself or the book, a guide to the building regs? If the latter then it is just that, a guide to what to do to comply with the building regs. It may say the best way to do it is just blanketly apply the rule to all jobs and then you're covered. I don;t think either any part of the building regs or and BS actually state there is a regulatory minimum distance.

guide to building regs thanks

 

[Andy™]

building regs does not contain any electrical regulations, only 7671 does. and thats what your working to. so if it complies with 7671, BCO cannot make you change anything (but they may try because they are rarely electricians and dont know the electrical regs)

 

[steptoe]

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[Bez]

I wait to be corrected, but Im sure they can.are building regs law.?

7671 is NOT law.

anyhow, the planning department can make you do whatever they want, you simply put it as a deviation on your cert,

"......to comply with *insert local council* planning department"

I think you're spot on Steps, Building Regulations are a Statutory document. It just so happens that one of the requirements of the Building Regs is to comply with 7671, but if they say not, do it their way, note it, and get them to sign for the deviation.

 

[Andy™]

part p doesnt contain any electrical regulations. i.e it does not say 'all sockets must be RCD etc. this is only in 7671. part p only states that 7671 should be followed.