Wago wiring correctly

Stevie R · Nov 19, 2024

I am putting up some new light fixtures and am going to use ‘Wago’ connectors my question is I have a live, neutral, earth coming out of the ceiling and the same from the light fitting,
When wiring to the wago connector do the 2 live go together same with neutral, earth? I’ve attached a photo bit basic but hope it explains what I mean

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Andy™ · Nov 19, 2024

do you really think putting live neutral & earth in the same connector isn't going to go bang?

Stevie R · Nov 19, 2024

I Just need to know what wires go into a wago connection in terms of the L,N,E do you use 3 separate wago connectors then?

Stevie R · Nov 19, 2024

Andy™ said:
do you really think putting live neutral & earth in the same connector isn't going to go bang?

BTW the clues in the name connector so YES that’s what you do with conventional connectors

Fleeting · Nov 19, 2024

Each conductor the live, neutral and earth need separate connectors so you need three of them not just one or it will just create a dead short.

Stevie R · Nov 19, 2024

Thank you for that

nice to receive practical advice instead of smart ar$e response

SPECIAL LOCATION · Nov 19, 2024

Stevie R said:
I am putting up some new light fixtures and am going to use ‘Wago’ connectors my question is I have a live, neutral, earth coming out of the ceiling and the same from the light fitting,
When wiring to the wago connector do the 2 live go together same with neutral, earth? I’ve attached a photo bit basic but hope it explains what I mean

For your example you would need 3x 2way wago connectors..
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA412C.html

Or personally for connections to light fittings I prefer these
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA101.html

or if you need to loop in & out plus the light fitting
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA112.html

Murdoch · Nov 19, 2024

You can get these

https://www.toolstation.com/in-line...jAU21eslFJ4iOCHJq_0aAvv4EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Never used them though

mainline · Nov 19, 2024

Stevie R said:
Thank you for that nice to receive practical advice instead of smart ar$e response

Are they going in any sort of enclosure.

Stevie R · Nov 19, 2024

mainline said:
Are they going in any sort of enclosure.

They will be under the fitting attached to the ceiling rose

Apache · Nov 19, 2024

They need to be in some kind of enclosure

https://www.toolstation.com/ip20-choc-box/p86064

https://www.toolstation.com/wagobox-221-4-junction-box/p54159

Murdoch · Nov 19, 2024

Apache said:
They need to be in some kind of enclosure

https://www.toolstation.com/ip20-choc-box/p86064

https://www.toolstation.com/wagobox-221-4-junction-box/p54159

Not sure I agree with that. The ceiling and the light fitting base form an acceptable enclosure imho.

Wagos provide a far superior connection and basic enclosure for the electrical connections than chic block ever would

SPECIAL LOCATION · Nov 19, 2024

Murdoch said:
You can get these

https://www.toolstation.com/in-line...jAU21eslFJ4iOCHJq_0aAvv4EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Never used them though

I have got a few of them that I use on three-core flexes to a plug & socket for temporary testing of various items I may want to energise quickly.....

BUT they they can be a bit inflexible compared to other single connectors...

SPECIAL LOCATION · Nov 20, 2024

Apache said:
They need to be in some kind of enclosure

https://www.toolstation.com/ip20-choc-box/p86064

https://www.toolstation.com/wagobox-221-4-junction-box/p54159

Regulation 526.5 requires that every termination is either within a suitable accessory, equipment enclosure...
(Such as the boxes you mention...)

OR.. "An enclosure partially formed or completed with building material which is non-combustible when tested to BS 476-4"

Which is why many light fittings come with a metal bar screwed to the ceiling, or wall...
and a screw terminal block attached to the inside of the wall/ceiling rose cover plate that is later fixed to the ceiling/wall bar..

So the joints are just enclosed between the ceiling/wall plaster and the light fitting rose cover plate...
All good with 526.5 (iii)

mainline · Nov 20, 2024

SPECIAL LOCATION said:
Regulation 526.5 requires that every termination is either within a suitable accessory, equipment enclosure...
(Such as the boxes you mention...)

OR.. "An enclosure partially formed or completed with building material which is non-combustible when tested to BS 476-4"

Which is why many light fittings come with a metal bar screwed to the ceiling, or wall...
and a screw terminal block attached to the inside of the wall/ceiling rose cover plate that is later fixed to the ceiling/wall bar..

So the joints are just enclosed between the ceiling/wall plaster and the light fitting rose cover plate...
All good with 526.5 (iii)

Then there are also the metal light fittings with a choc block enclosure deemed to be class 2

dj.reynolds. · Nov 21, 2024

Also it might be worth a mention that only one wire per entry way is allowed, no sharing, since it may be that the spring connection might only grip one wire leaving the second one with a loose fit, with arcing and heating being a distinct possibility. Been there, tried it, not recommended.

OnOff · Nov 21, 2024

I'll happily admit when WAGOs first came out I had a selection box of the various types and kept putting off using them. Finishing off a rewire the last thing to do was replace a charred, brittle batten lamp holder in the loft and test.

I removed the old batten holder and realised I had an angled instead of straight replacement. To temporarily make safe, instead of putting a traditional connector block on I thought I'd try one of those "new ones"...and wrapped it in tape for good measure.

I didn't go back to the house immediately and totally forgot about the loft / batten holder.

I started testing...the IR results threw me for a bit and was wondering where I'd accidentally screwed / nailed through a cable.

It was then I realised the value of dead testing!

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