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Sod squeezing 6mm or bigger into a 1 gang box! There isn't any swear box big enough to hold that many 10p's! 2 Gang all the way - even if some people think its ugly ;) O.

AndyC, I think you mean can't meet..... ;) O.

IT really annoys me how Landlords get away with this! The local council/Enviromental/University Student Union should prevent this - but again they turn a blind eye - and so do the people living in them! AMAZING! :( O. ps - I've done one house, where I wouldn't even let a pig sh1te in there...

Hi there, Its always best to avoid notches - they're for plumbers! Here's the screwfix version (they are rubbish - thin, aren't very big, and don't stay fixed): http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30038/Building/Builders-Metalwork/Protecta-Safe-Plate-Pack-of-20 Here is the link for the TLC version...

Riggy/msb2003 - your spot on. PAT doesn't exist anymore...and you even have to test built in devices. Lets say the IR is dubious or you can't perform it, you rely on touch/leakage - but you can't as the appliance is above the capability of the tester you are using. What do most people do...

Hammer is not the way to go ;) Either use a "cheap" core drill like a makita or dewalt..... Or get the daddy of drills: http://www.marcrist.co.uk/products/machines/ddm3.aspx O.

Hi, As has been said, don't use hammer, unless you seriously want to shorten the life of your core bit. The core bits can be chipped by the force of an SDS hammer action (the joules and stroke is too high). a proper core drill uses less energy, but more importantly has minimal (virtually 0mm...

Sorry I think I've confused you :( I'm not saying the earth leakage is that high!!! :o If for some reason you want to do an earth leakage/touch current test on an appliance thats lets say is 5KW load (ie and oven). The PAT testers only go to 13A supply - so how do you perform an...

All, When performing a PAT on an appliance that draws more than your tester can deliver (ie its more than 13A) what method do you use to measure earth leakage/touch current? I know a lot of companies will skip this test on "built in" appliances. Whats the consensus on this? I use my earth...

A relay? All depends on how specific (and value) you want the voltage to be before it operates? O.

Cover your eyes AD2 ;) Come on guys (and gals), who do you think is hot on TV (not films)? Show us some pics :D O.

Jib, Depending on the light fitting and the ceiling, you could fit a round dry lining box. Such as: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/12442/Electrical-Supplies/Switches-Sockets/Mounting-Boxes/Round-Dry-Lining-Box O.

What a load of b*! I really hope no proper sparky would waste their money on this rubbish! O.

Again, with electrics, there is no legal requirement to test anything. But its all about mitigating liability, health and safety compliance, etc... periodic testing of these "appliances" is one way of keeping your insurance company, HSE, and a court happy, that you have complied with your...

No offense guys.... but some of you are a bit out of date. :o PAT is not just portable appliances anymore.... its not actually called PAT anymore... its "in-service inspection and testing of electrical equipment". This covers everything from little handheld appliances to built in appliances...

hi there, I'm not sure. But it doesn't make any difference, bar the load testing. O.

The 2377 is the easiest exam/course to do ever! It is embarassing easy! O.

All, I have been asked to PAT an oven - and only an oven (rented house) I don't know much about the oven yet - except its a domestic one. Its years since I have done any PAT - and then it wasn't on anything like an oven. What tests should I do? Earth (hard test) and IR, functional? Do I...

several years ago i had the same thing - but i found the issue after the walls had been bored! At first i thought they had damaged the cable, but after ripping it out and checking it, we found no damage. It was a manufacturing defect :( basec cable too! The other common issue is...

To state the obvious, only go into PAT if you are going to do it big time. I (and a few mates) have PAT Testers (mines a Meggar DVF) and they hardly ever get used - Its a lot to invest if you aren't going to use it. Sit down and think how many tests you need to do to cover your time and the...