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For that sort of load you will need a LOT of solar panels.

You really should install a wind charger as well to stand any chance of meeting the loads needed.

 
Thats what I was meaning Dave, how much power are they hoping to produce, not use.

What is your generation figures?

To get any decent output will require quite a lot of expense on the generation side.

A 2kW system will set you back over 5K .! by the time you factor in batteries, charging system etc.

 
Until I visit the site again, which is next week, to undertake 1st fix of wiring I don't know the capacity of the solar panels. I will have a look at the kit they have, then set it up and run some tests.

I don't anticpate the average demand to be anywhere near the maximum. Over half the lighting (90 watts) is in the bathroom, bedroom and a loft storage area and will not be used a great deal. All the lights will be individually switched so only 1 fitting (approx 12watts) maybe sufficient in a room.

The customer has been using the present set up for few years without problems, and is only re-wiring due to the chalet being rebuilt because it's structure was in a poor condition. They have been running lighting, a 12v socket and using the inverter. The charge regulator has the facility to connect in a wind turbine, so if in the future as the replies are suggesting the generating capacity needs to be increased it can be. Like wise the battery capacity, more can be added if required.

The chalet will have weekend usage and will be empty during the week enabling around 5 days of charging without any draw on the batteries, with a furthur 2 days of charging whilst the chalet is in use. I feel it will be hard to justify the extra ependiture of around 5k to re-instate what has been working up to now, although I appreciate the new max demand is more.

This is similar to replacing a 4 way CU (lights, sockets, shower & cooker = 95A) to brand new 8 way with sockets up & down, lights up & down, cooker, shower, boiler onto seperate circuit, smoke alarm seperate circuit = 162A. There is potentially 60% more capacity, but in practice the max demand is unlikely to change as the same equipment will be used.

 
ah, ok, clearer to me now,you are just re-furbishing an existing install, :D
Yeah, maybe didn't explain that too well. The only new part will be a fuse board of some description, probably will be a marine type or possibly caravan style, just depends on price and suitabilty. My main concern is to get it so it will pass muster with building control, though the feedback from the customer is bc don't have a clue what is required!! headbang

I'll just stick to the bits that do apply ie, cable routing, ratings walls with insulation etc and then issue my standard Elecsa cert with the bits filled in that apply, which will be not a lot!!

 
Just had a phone call from the customer saying that building control have asked for interlinked smoke alarms. The building has a central hallway which leads to the bedroom, bathroom and a living area (lounge/kitchen) with a storage loft above. My understanding was that 1 alarm would be needed in the hallway which would be within 3 metres of every habitable room. Building control have asked for 1 in hall and another in lounge/kitchen interlinked???

All gone well so far, cables all 1st fixed. Just waiting for chippys to finished cladding the walls in wood, so as I can fit accessories. but there is still access at the minute for cabling behind the cladding.

I'm familiar with Aico's range of alarms but am unsure if they run off a 12v system, as the radiolink and hard wired versions all require 240v.

Does anybody have any knowledge of something that maybe useful? Could I argue that the 2nd alarm isn't needed as this will make things easier and I'll fit a standard 9v battery smoke alarm.

Some help would be appreciated please. Thanks.

 
Thanks Doc,

do you know if their 12v alarms are able to be interlinked? either with a radio base or with an interconnect cable? The product guide I have doesn't seem much help. I shall be ringing their technical helpline this week.

 
From previous link, Click product search, click alarms and accessories and they are all listed as far as I can see?

Ionisation 9v interconnectable

http://www.aico.co.uk/dmdocuments/ei100c datasheet.pdf

Ionisation 12v interconnectable

http://www.aico.co.uk/dmdocuments/ei100r datasheet.pdf

Optical 9V interconnectable

http://www.aico.co.uk/dmdocuments/ei105c datasheet.pdf

Optical 12v interconnectable

http://www.aico.co.uk/dmdocuments/ei105r datasheet.pdf

Unclear why the product search isn't working for you, but I assume its one of the above options you would be looking for.

Doc H.

 
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