6 bedroom bedsitter, and emergency lighting.

[safedepth]

Can any one tell me if a 2 storey, house, being converted into a student let will require any emergency lighting. It will consist of 6 bedrooms, 2 down and 4 up, along with a large kitchen/lounge downstairs and bathroom upstairs?

I don't know where to find the answer, sorry.

Thanks.

 

[Badger]

i would say from the fire side of emergency exits etc, a fire alarm and emergency lighting would be required.

 

[safedepth]

i would say from the fire side of emergency exits etc, a fire alarm and emergency lighting would be required.

Thanks Badger, Where are the requirements for this laid down? I will need to be able to reinforce any opinions I give.

 

[NozSpark]

Won't this become a HMO? And therefore come under council licensing

 

[safedepth]

Won't this become a HMO? And therefore come under council licensing

Not sure, hence needing to know where the requirements are laid down. I would imagine there is a set protocol for this. When does a student let become a HMO for a start. There is a difference between a 2 bed flat and a full blown accommodation block.

 

[Badger]

Thanks Badger, Where are the requirements for this laid down? I will need to be able to reinforce any opinions I give.

View attachment 3185

is this document any use?

Emergency_Lighting_Regulations.pdf

 

[safedepth]

is this document any use?

What can I say, thanks again. Scoobed too.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Can any one tell me if a 2 storey, house, being converted into a student let will require any emergency lighting. It will consist of 6 bedrooms, 2 down and 4 up, along with a large kitchen/lounge downstairs and bathroom upstairs?I don't know where to find the answer, sorry.

Thanks.

Download a copy of the ESC's Landlord guidance for electrical safety from here..

Useful downloads : Electrical Safety Council

Landlords Guide to Electrical Safety - ESC

Then read Appendix A of this document staring around page 29ish!

Thats about fire safety...

As with a lot of electrical urban myths I think you will find legally they don't have to fit much at all..

Providing the property is only two stores high and has shared kitchen facilities..

Even HMO (student lets) only need a Grade D mains powered smoke or heat detection with batt back up.

Three of my kids have been to university... (two of which are still @ uni Bath & Southampton)

4th offspring in the process of completing 2nd yr of A-levels at the moment!

so more uni trips still to come..

Anyway so far we have used so far 5 different two storey HMO (shared student lets)...

None so far have had any Fire Alarm OR emergency lights..

Just Smokes!!

Its when they go onto a third floor that rules get tighter!

 

[philbas]

Its when they go onto a third floor that rules get tighter!

When the students go onto the third floor in a two storey building it's time to have a talk with them about that strange stuff they are smokeing

 

[mickey g]

as already stated because it is ground floor and first floor you should not have to install emergency lighting unless the building has a odd layout risk assess.the natioanal guidance that fire authoritys and councils reference is lacors (local authority co ordiators of regulatory services) the guige can be downloaded for free from there webb site.you will need a part 6 grade d fire alarm system.mike

 

[a1]

Have a chat to your local Planning (LABC), and they will give you a definative answer, after all, it will be them that says yay or nay.

Then tell us what they said, on here, please?

 

[safedepth]

Sorry for the delay. LABC say since it's 2 stories emergency lights are not required.

 

[M107]

http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/fire/firesafetyrisk4

 

[Evans Electric]

The other thing is , Safedepth, as I usually say with this question , its for the Landlord to instruct YOU as to what he requires , he,s the one responsible, unless he's dumped it onto you of course.

I keep telling a landlord that he needs to test the linked smoke detectors at his property, I fitted them 25 years ago. He doesn't want to know for reasons known only to him .