Alarms

[r.b]

Can you have door contacts on the same circuit as sensors on a zone in a house obviously 2 cores to contacts 6 cores to sensors this way you would want to do your sensors first Im just dubious I normally do everything seperately?

 

[Evans Electric]

Just series them all up  in any order.

 

[Manator]

One thing to remember, and this goes for installing anything that is intended to give alarm, (fire, intruder and other) if you install any you are liable in the event of any incident. Insurance companies will not pay out if your intruder alarm is not fitted by a registered installer and the correct paper work is not done.

If this happens then the only recovery system the home owner has is to sue the installer. So be careful,explain to the clients that what your installing is only a warning system and will not comply for insurance purposes.

 

[Evans Electric]

Nice one Maneater !!

 

[Robin Spark]

One thing to remember, and this goes for installing anything that is intended to give alarm, (fire, intruder and other) if you install any you are liable in the event of any incident. Insurance companies will not pay out if your intruder alarm is not fitted by a registered installer and the correct paper work is not done.

If this happens then the only recovery system the home owner has is to sue the installer. So be careful,explain to the clients that what your installing is only a warning system and will not comply for insurance purposes.

When I have fitted alarms I tell customers beforehand that I am not Nacoss or SSAIB and explain that not to tell their insurance company they have a professionnally fitted alarm by a registered company.  You can also get efficacy cover as an addition to your public liability insurance which covers you for the failure to perform of your installed system.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

When I have fitted alarms I tell customers beforehand that I am not Nacoss or SSAIB and explain that not to tell their insurance company they have a professionnally fitted alarm by a registered company.  You can also get efficacy cover as an addition to your public liability insurance which covers you for the failure to perform of your installed system.

Same here, we have ' failure for a system to work' insurance as part of the PI & PL.

 

[r.b]

So basically you have alarm panel to bell box, alarm panel to key pad all seperate alarm cables.So the sensors and contacts are just on a radial from the alarm panel one radial on downstairs zone and then another radial for the upstairs zone sensors and contacts etc?.I just want to know the best way to do it,cant you just do all door contacts downstairs on one radial all sensors downstairs on one radial and the same radials for upstairs?is both orite?probly 1st option is quicker?

 

[Andy™]

So basically you have alarm panel to bell box, alarm panel to key pad all seperate alarm cables.So the sensors and contacts are just on a radial from the alarm panel one radial on downstairs zone and then another radial for the upstairs zone sensors and contacts etc?.I just want to know the best way to do it,cant you just do all door contacts downstairs on one radial all sensors downstairs on one radial and the same radials for upstairs?is both orite?probly 1st option is quicker?

you could, but then thats just a bodge. but by all means, do it your way. your going to anyway

 

[Evans Electric]

Divide it into zones and select devices to suit layout .   Radials are not as we know radials.

 

[kerching]

Separate cable to each detector/contractor.....simples.

Unless you are doing it the other way

On the other hand is a wristwatch

 

[col]

Separate cables to each zone is best for future fault-finding, Otherwise if zone 4 keeps going off, how will you know which sensor it is?

You might consider radio systems although these often need cable to keypad/bellbox anyway

 

[Evans Electric]

Or you can loop them but parallel the power and series the tamp and the zone . Or not ...as the crow flies.  

 

[kerching]

Or you can loop them but parallel the power and series the tamp and the zone . Or not ...as the crow flies.

Or you could use the biscuits, or go digital. Don't try both, for the obvious reasons etc etc

 

[Andy™]

Or you could use the biscuits,

they would probably get ate

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

 

[Evans Electric]

Oh  I see you're ready for your re- assessment tomorrow then Slippers?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Oh  I see you're ready for your re- assessment tomorrow then Slippers?

Not quite yet, that's why I am keeping the biccies in the cat bowl. No fig rolls this time.

 

[Andy™]

nice biccie.jpg

not got any choccy biscuits instead?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Can you have door contacts on the same circuit as sensors on a zone in a house obviously 2 cores to contacts 6 cores to sensors this way you would want to do your sensors first Im just dubious I normally do everything seperately?

Why obviously ? Standard wiring to door contacts has 4 cores. Alarm equipment can be wired numerous ways needing 2,3, 4 or 6 cores depending on the manufacturer.

not got any choccy biscuits instead?

not got any choccy biscuits instead?

Help yourself.................

 

[Evans Electric]

Hey ... I clicked on the choccy biscs and one just popped out on the DVD tray .