Alteration To An Installation

[r.b]

on a electrical cert a classic example is a fuseboard change, I was just wondering if say you wanted 2 extra sockets on an existing ring and you had to install extra new cable to make it a ring again is this the same thing it would go down as an alteration to an installation?

 

[alpha spark]

You would of altered the circuit so a minor works would be suffice

 

[Rutts35]

Well technically you're 'adding' to the installation. So I'd go for addition since you're probably changing the load.

 

[m4tty]

You'd only be selecting addition or alteration on an eic. Adding 2 sockets to a ring only needs a minor works

 

[Evans Electric]

Wonder how many jobs like that just get done without certs of any kind !!!! ..........  Just saying. 

 

[samson337]

Minor work's for me too. But iv'e not wrote a cert in ages, my polish mate write's them for me as he goes into more detail :coat

 

[Rutts35]

You'd only be selecting addition or alteration on an eic. Adding 2 sockets to a ring only needs a minor works

Good point.

 

[m4tty]

As boatboy would say ..... Green Scoob button bottom left ........ JuSt SaYiNg

 

[wozz]

im confused OP, are you saying if you done a fuseboard change and added a couple of socket would you use the alteration box?

Or are you asking what form to use?  We seem to have a mix of answers above. 

 

[Rutts35]

@M4tty. Another good point. Lol

 

[r.b]

Im just saying a fuseboard change would go down as an alteration on an electric cert.I didnt mean just change 2 existing socket fronts for new fronts which would be a minor works.I ment altering the existing ring for 2 new socket fronts i.e splitting the ring under the floor joint box and making it a ring with new cables to your new 2 sockets this would be alteration surely of a circuit?thats my call anyway

 

[ProDave]

I didnt mean just change 2 existing socket fronts for new fronts which would be a minor works. 

I don't know about others, but that's a repair and doesn't get any paperwork.

 

[m4tty]

+1 prodave. That wouldn't warrant any paperwork but cutting into ring for additional sockets is a minor works not an eic. Eic is for new circuits or change of cpd

 

[NozSpark]

Have to agree with Dave and Matty

Replacement CU - alteration on EIC

New circuit - addition on EIC

Altering or adding to an existing single circuit - MWC

Altering or adding to several existing circuits - alteration on EIC (or MWC for each circuit)

 

[steptoe]

that seems a reasonable list Noz.

 

[binky]

Wonder how many jobs like that just get done without certs of any kind !!!! ..........  Just saying. 

lots

 

[Technician]

Just read the posts on this;

I am not sure if I have a crossed wire on this one;

OSG states; replacement of consumer

unit or distribution board, needs an EICR.   Page 151.

When the OSG says replacement, I read that as re-positioning

and not just new kit.  Replacement could mean renewal.

I do not read "alteration on EICR" as matching what OSG says.

Not nit-picking, just observing.

 

[Sharpend]

Is that an EICR to cover the install circuits and an EIC for the change of the board as change of characteristics??

 

[Technician]

Good point Sharp;  yes, the EIC for the work. i.e.

replacement.  I should have said EIC, I said EICR.

Page 152;  the EICR is used after periodic has been

carried out.

If you look at it in the round, as it were, the board

change or replacement is a change of characteristics,

as you said.

 

[Andrew dobson]

installation cert for a mains change and minor works for the extra sockets as you're altering the ring circuit. not installing a new one