Amd 3 Cable Supports

[Sidewinder]

Exactly Sharp,

Take a large open space, say a conference or concert hall.

All areas of that space would be as escape route.

Once you are outside the doors, there may be a foyer.

That would be an escape route too.

However perhaps from the back stage area it may be that there is just a long corridor with rooms off it.

The corridor would be an escape route.

The offices to the side would not be, well not for the backstage area.

However they could form part of the escape route for the people in that office.

Complicated, and, not really up to the installer, down to the client, their FRA & the designer.

 

[Blue Duck]

Or trunking round the door frame in a toilet for the extractor, fire breaks out while your on the throne and you need to escape

 

[kerching]

Or trunking round the door frame in a toilet for the extractor, fire breaks out while your on the throne and you need to escape

S. H. I. T. Happens!

 

[Sidewinder]

Special High Intensity Training...

 

[Blue Duck]

Special High Intensity Training...

AKA the 5ww :slap

:Sorry:

(OT)

 

[Andy™]

5ww... high intensity? low intensity, maybe, but no way is it high!

 

[Sidewinder]

No one said what it was high intensity in, Andy!

 

[Andy™]

fair point

 

[ProDave]

Or trunking round the door frame in a toilet for the extractor, fire breaks out while your on the throne and you need to escape

If the fire is that intense to melt plastic cable clips or trunking you are toast anyway.

The concern is not people trying to escape, but fire crews entering a burning building and getting entangled in potentially live wires.

But if so it's not just escape routes that are a problem, it's the whole building surely?

 

[Sidewinder]

That depends on where the escape route is, as, the FRS will only use the escape routes effectively.

 

[ProDave]

I've got it.

AMD 3 covers cable protection in escape routes.

AMD 4 will expand that to cover the whole building. Probably due in 2017

 

[Blue Duck]

My point was how you define escape route....

They may as well say no door frames, no hallways and no trunking higher than 1000mm or something???

Here's one I'm going to look at tomorrow typical council cheapo rewire......

 

[Sidewinder]

Above the door is an escape route, get the FRA off the client.

TBH, one of the targets is shoddy social housing rewires, where the property owner will not pay the right rate to have the job done correctly.

 

[Blue Duck]

msl1: FRA!

At a guess without going there: 1970's council flat, solid concrete ceilings walls and floors.... not enough room in the old conduits to get all the shite needed to stop the bathroom from rotting... so probably if its 10/15years old, singles in trunking but knowing my luck it will be t&e.

This problem is bigger than me....

Very few social housing rewires aren't like this. Like you say they don't want to pay proper money or proper sparks.

:C

 

[ProDave]

My point was how you define escape route....

They may as well say no door frames, no hallways and no trunking higher than 1000mm or something???

Here's one I'm going to look at tomorrow typical council cheapo rewire......

And look at where they put the pull cord light switch FFS

 

[Blue Duck]

No that's why I'm going. To move the pull switch as one of our carpenter's had to reverse the door at the request of the OT service.

 

[pickleye]

Couple of pulleys and a longer string, jobs a good'n