Auto door opener/closer

[NozSpark]

I've been asked to wire up a couple of automatic door opener/closers in a doctors surgery.....

at the moment I don't know if it includes the wiring of any door pads or safety devices and/or commissioning

There are a couple of problems...

a) its automated doors... I guess with the same problems that come with electric gates....... this is putting me off

b) it's a regular customer.... prob £800 a month (labour only)..... this makes me want to do it...

What do I do????

 

[Sharpend]

Having just had a similar fiasco at my current job, all I can say Noz there is little too them, so much so that I with no experience of them had to advise their installer how it needs to be wired!!  

I would think that being in a public place then safety sensors would be a requirement, you will also need a finger strip up edge of door by hinges. 

 

[Andy™]

just do it

http://www.nvmgroup.co.uk/automatic-door-entry-systems

 

[Evans Electric]

I know the feeling Noz...you tend to think , do want the hassle , its something I'm not familiar with .

But , usually speaking to the manufacturer, who normally supply back-up advice , things become clear .

Go for it , another string to the bow .

Look into it first , don't rush in blind.

You're a Sparky ...we can do anything!!!!

Years ago I went into overhead crane work ,    removing the old manual tram like controls from the like of 50 ton cranes  remove the cab ,  fit new control panel...fit tandem radio control panel ....driver then works crane from the ground  from model joysticks.

Hadn't got a Scooby Doo to start with  TBH .

First thing I realized was , the cables for a big slip ring hoist motor say,  in our world would be 16mm  say....on a crane , 6,mm at the most .

Reason was of course , the motor only runs for 2 minutes before stopping again .

 

[NozSpark]

I've had a reply from the installers.....

they want me to wire it, install door pads and commission it..

they also asked "what safety's"?....... Ffs 

 

[Tony S]

What make are they?

I’m going to see someone on Wednesday where they’ve got these doors all over the place, I’ll have a nosy around if you want.

 

[NozSpark]

They're "Digiway plus"..... They've already sent me the manual

 

[Phoenix]

To me it sounds like "commisioning" could be a right pain.... getting it adjusted right so that it opens without catching/binding etc, perhaps more so if they know it was others doing the setting up, rushing it, knowing if it takes a lot of faffing later, its not them doing it!

It seems an odd way of doing things, normally the door specialists are best placed to set them all up etc. I am wondering why they arn't doing it....

I think I'd tell them it isn't something I get involved in, but am happy to provide a supply and to install ELV cables with suitable containment to the points they need it for pushes, etc

 

[NozSpark]

To me it sounds like "commisioning" could be a right pain.... getting it adjusted right so that it opens without catching/binding etc, perhaps more so if they know it was others doing the setting up, rushing it, knowing if it takes a lot of faffing later, its not them doing it!

It seems an odd way of doing things, normally the door specialists are best placed to set them all up etc. I am wondering why they arn't doing it....

I think I'd tell them it isn't something I get involved in, but am happy to provide a supply and to install ELV cables with suitable containment to the points they need it for pushes, etc

Thankfully I don't work on job rate for them

but from what I gather the door kit goes through an automatic setting up cycle to find the correct torque for the motor, so it shouldn't be too difficult... (hopefully)

 

[Andy™]

decent gate control panels do that so id expect it to be similar

 

[NozSpark]

decent gate control panels do that so id expect it to be similar

They're going with the "Digiway Plus"... I've told them to get the "EN16005-KIT-U" kit as it includes all the safetys