Broadband

[shieldssecurity]

Hi,

I've got a customer who has broadband in his house and he now wants it in his barn.

The barn is about 90 mts from the house and the only way i can get to it from the house is suspended overhead.

Can i use the external 4 pair BT cable and if so do i connect it using rj45 plugs

thanks

 

[The Godfather]

Hi,I've got a customer who has broadband in his house and he now wants it in his barn.

The barn is about 90 mts from the house and the only way i can get to it from the house is suspended overhead.

Can i use the external 4 pair BT cable and if so do i connect it using rj45 plugs

thanks

What's wrong with wireless (I believe that is still possible?)

Don

 

[shieldssecurity]

What's wrong with wireless (I believe that is still possible?)Don

we tried it but no joy it was a bit to far for the normal home stuff and the decent stuff is a bit to much money

 

[The Godfather]

we tried it but no joy it was a bit to far for the normal home stuff and the decent stuff is a bit to much money

Cable connection it is then.

The Godfather

 

[jdmjrmdam]

Assuming that the barn has power from the house, why not use a couple of Ethernet over power adapters.

 

[Andy™]

Assuming that the barn has power from the house, why not use a couple of Ethernet over power adapters.

but dont they have a limited range?

 

[The Godfather]

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[Apache]

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[Robojin]

I used to sell a lot of these for short hops between buildings, saved the expense of hard wire etc

http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&FamID=60&ProdID=379

Some have even archived a similar result with a Pringles tube

 

[ianmacd]

185 for 10Base2 (sure 10Mbit/s would be enough) otherwise you are looking at fibre.

 

[Robojin]

200 meters http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=12210BUT must be on same circuit!

We have one at the surgery.

These will be blocked by the meter, but provided its through the same CU even on a different circuit it's another option open to you

 

[Apache]

but provided its through the same CU even on a different circuit it's another option open to you

The ones we had didn't work on a different ring main - had to be same circuit!?

 

[Lurch]

Can i use the external 4 pair BT cable and if so do i connect it using rj45 plugs

No.

How far is it? All you need is a cat5e between the existing router and the barn. Technically the maximum length is 100m end to end, but it'll be fine going way past that. The 100m rule is for certified installations, yours isn;t going to be. If it is much further than 100m then you can install a cheap desktop switch at each end close to the exit and entry points of the buldings, so you are making it go router>short internal run>switch>external run>switch>barn internal run>barn equipment.

The network over mains things do sometimes work across circuits and up and down submains, but I wouldn't guarantee it.

 

[Robojin]

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[jdmjrmdam]

The beauty about ethernet over power adapters is they are so cheap and easy that they are worth a try even if they don't work. They can always be reused or flogged.

Have a look on EBAY and search for "comtrend powerline adapter"

 

[jdmjrmdam]

No.How far is it? All you need is a cat5e between the existing router and the barn. Technically the maximum length is 100m end to end, but it'll be fine going way past that. The 100m rule is for certified installations, yours isn;t going to be. If it is much further than 100m then you can install a cheap desktop switch at each end close to the exit and entry points of the buldings, so you are making it go router>short internal run>switch>external run>switch>barn internal run>barn equipment.

I agree.

 

[steptoe]

I have wifi that works over about 250m, line of sight, with only a +5dB gain antenna.

just get some decent antennae, and a good router with screw on antenna.

normally built in wifi is rubbish,

my laptop picks up 2 signals on built in card, with external it picks up 14.!

 

[PBC_1966]

I would go with a hardwired connection if possible, even if it involves a little more work to install the catenary wire and data cable. You may be a little over the supposed distance limit allowing for terminations, but as noted, if you're not worrying about a fully certified system it's unlikely to be a problem.

Make sure you use proper external cable though, not the internal versions which will not stand up to UV in the sunlight too well (assuming we ever see summer again - it seems a LONG way off at the moment!).

By the way, even though some manufacturers who should know better continue to misuse the term, the connectors used on modern twisted-pair Ethernet connections are not RJ45.

 

[steptoe]

I would go with a hardwired connection if possible, even if it involves a little more work to install the catenary wire and data cable. You may be a little over the supposed distance limit allowing for terminations, but as noted, if you're not worrying about a fully certified system it's unlikely to be a problem. Make sure you use proper external cable though, not the internal versions which will not stand up to UV in the sunlight too well (assuming we ever see summer again - it seems a LONG way off at the moment!).

By the way, even though some manufacturers who should know better continue to misuse the term, the connectors used on modern twisted-pair Ethernet connections are not RJ45.

so what are they,?

cos I have RJ45 plugs that fit just fine.

and you could always use CAT6 cable if you were inclined,

 

[PBC_1966]

so what are they,?cos I have RJ45 plugs that fit just fine.

A plug for a true RJ45 configuration will not fit the jacks used for Ethernet, as it has an additional keyway. RJ45 is a configuration for the connection of an analog modem, with adjustable output power controlled by a resistance in the jack and set to match the line characteristics. It's rarely ever found today.