cables not in prescribed zones

[sellers]

Reading OSG page 60, I'm a little confuzzled.

Basically what I have is a kitchen with a socket on one wall, I want to come off this socket to feed 2 spurs on the wall next to it. Unfortunatley I can't keep the cables at the accessory height as there is a window in the way and they will need to drop 150mm at least.

I know I would be safe using galv conduit but Isn't there something that states you can go out of a prescribed zone if using and RCD or have i dreamt this.

 

[NozSpark]

Reading OSG page 60, I'm a little confuzzled.Basically what I have is a kitchen with a socket on one wall, I want to come off this socket to feed 2 spurs on the wall next to it. Unfortunatley I can't keep the cables at the accessory height as there is a window in the way and they will need to drop 150mm at least.

I know I would be safe using galv conduit but Isn't there something that states you can go out of a prescribed zone if using and RCD or have i dreamt this.

I'm afraid you have!

 

[Andy™]

Basically what I have is a kitchen with a socket on one wall, I want to come off this socket to feed 2 spurs on the wall next to it. Unfortunatley I can't keep the cables at the accessory height as there is a window in the way and they will need to drop 150mm at least.

providing the new socket is lower than the existing, there is nothing with going down from existing to new height, then along to new accessory

 

[NozSpark]

Like Andy says, and you have said

Either make sure that the cable is in zones or use galv conduit

 

[Lee321]

like this?

if so its still in the zone

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[Zeespark]

Is the floor solid or floor boards? I would just rerun cables on what I can the up/down principal when I can.

AndyGuinness

 

[Lee321]

you can only run in any direction out of zones when using a method where the cable has high mechanical protection such as tube or its greater than 50mm deep

 

[Zeespark]

I am meaning when inside zones lost, I apologise if I have rattled anyones cage.

AndyGuinness

 

[Lee321]

I am meaning when inside zones lost, I apologise if I have rattled anyones cage.AndyGuinness

that wasn't to you Zee

agree tho that horizontal runs are not liked :x

 

[Zeespark]

I would only use horizontal if no other route could be found, ie under a window as above. And no sweat lost, I can be in My own little world at times

AndyGuinness

 

[tom1]

can it run underneth kitchen units?

 

[Zeespark]

I would always try to first fix them behind wall and after marking out where the kitchen units are to be installed - you dont want a kitchen fitter installing a screw through your cables.

AndyGuinness

 

[sellers]

floor is concrete, ceiling is a no go, this house is odd, very big and old, take up the floor boards upstairs and theres a 1m void then the existing ceiling, then under neath that a new false ceiling.

The sockets are all at 1100mm, but drop down to about 950mm to go underneath a window. I was hoping to cut out the plaster board and fish it through as its dot and dab with quite a bit of room, looks like I'll have to cut it out and put some tube in!

 

[Lee321]

floor is concrete, ceiling is a no go, this house is odd, very big and old, take up the floor boards upstairs and theres a 1m void then the existing ceiling, then under neath that a new false ceiling.The sockets are all at 1100mm, but drop down to about 950mm to go underneath a window. I was hoping to cut out the plaster board and fish it through as its dot and dab with quite a bit of room, looks like I'll have to cut it out and put some tube in!

no all you need do is fit a blank plate at the height of the horizontal run if your new socket is not at that height

either above the work top or below if the blank plate will be "ugly"

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[tom1]

no all you need do is fit a blank plate at the height of the horizontal run if your new socket is not at that heighteither above the work top or below if the blank plate will be "ugly"

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would look a bit rough blank above the worktop,

if it drops below the worktop clip direct behined the unit and chase in above

 

[Lee321]

would look a bit rough blank above the worktop,if it drops below the worktop clip direct behined the unit and chase in above

exactly why i mentioned below :x

yes then could go surface too Guinness

 

[Andy™]

no need for the blank if its surface either

 

[tom1]

no need for the blank if its surface either

Because the cable would run down from 1 accsesory and across from the other

 

[kme]

like this?if so its still in the zone

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I`ve got no issues with the drawing you`ve got there. Have done this previously.

Other common one is to chaase to just below the worktop, then let the cables run on the surface; as the cupboards will cover `em. Solves many a problem.

KME

 

[Lee321]

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