Can a domestic installer

[Gforce]

When someone has registered as a domestic installer can they undertake comercial work-like offices and shops and security work?

Or are there some other things required?

 

[M107]

If competent to do the work then crack on..................I do

 

[D Brennan]

If competent to do the work then crack on..................I do

SAME

 

[binky]

No requirement to be anything other than competent.

 

[Tarpole]

The electricity at work act says you must be competent , However if you do the installation you would need to do an installation certificate, and test to the 17th ed. (full cert not domestic)You may well find that your insurance also does not cover you. If you get this type of work become an NICEIC approved contractor then you can prove competency, and not risk a mistake costing your house.

 

[The Godfather]

The electricity at work act says you must be competent .

Correct.

Part II (General)

Persons to be competent to prevent danger and injury

16. No person shall be engaged in any work activity where technical knowledge or experience is necessary to prevent danger or, where appropriate, injury, unless he possesses such knowledge or experience, or is under such degree of supervision as may be appropriate having regard to the nature of the work.

The Godfather

 

[D Brennan]

If your a fully qualified electrician there are no problems in doing the work, being niceic is not needed as you have proved yourself to be competent when qualifiying as an electrician , if you have never done any work apart from domestic then i would say leave alone, but if you have experience on commercial/industrial then do the work, issue a cert, job done.

I served my time mostly on industrial/commercial so i have a lot more experience in these areas than domestic although all my work now is domestic, but if i get a job doing commercial/industrial i would take it on without a second thought and all would be legal as it does not need to be notified.

 

[Gforce]

Ok thanks guys-no Im not fully qualified as yet but will be looking to do 2330 in the future.

I just meant simple single phase stuff-but if you hink its better left alone

 

[Tarpole]

Thats all well and good , Being qualified to an NVQ 1 does not mean you should take the work on , also if it all goes wrong and the insurance co can prove you are not up to it you can loose everthing. (if you are proffessional and actuallly have insurance)Get some back up NICEIC ,ECA etc if you are good enough whats the problem???

If you are not then you will not want to be looked at by people who know.

 

[Gforce]

Yes of course I will have insurance. Dont take this the wrong way-im just trying to establish what is required within the industry in general. Its very confusing with so many things you see.

With reference to nvq level 1 I assume your refering to my statement about 2330-from other peoples posts I was lead to believe after level 2 and 3 would mean fully qualified.

 

[M107]

Having posted what I did I do have to reiterrate what others have said.....make sure you have the insurance to cover the work you are doing (I do by the way), wether it be domestic / industrial / commercial or periodics.

But personnaly I dont do much industrial / commercial so dont need to be fully approved with NICEIC or others & the DI registration does ok for now.

Having said that I have been thinking of going fully approved.

 

[D Brennan]

Thats all well and good , Being qualified to an NVQ 1 does not mean you should take the work on , also if it all goes wrong and the insurance co can prove you are not up to it you can loose everthing. (if you are proffessional and actuallly have insurance)Get some back up NICEIC ,ECA etc if you are good enough whats the problem???If you are not then you will not want to be looked at by people who know.

who said there qualified to nvq 1??

 

[M107]

Not me.................

 

[D Brennan]

Having posted what I did I do have to reiterrate what others have said.....make sure you have the insurance to cover the work you are doing (I do by the way), wether it be domestic / industrial / commercial or periodics.But personnaly I dont do much industrial / commercial so dont need to be fully approved with NICEIC or others & the DI registration does ok for now.

Having said that I have been thinking of going fully approved.

I agree also but if you are competant enough you do not actually need to be approved to take on this kind of work as long as all insurance is in place.

 

[Gforce]

Yes I suppose so- I mean to say possibly I am being blind but on most commercial properties excluding industrial things will be much the same as any other type of wiring-assuming its single phase.

 

[Andy™]

my 2P worth.... (and dont ask for change!)

you dont need to be reg'd with anyone to carry out commercial.

just make sure you have all insurances, and dont take anything thats way over your capabilities.

im not reg'd with anyone for commercial, and dont plan to. im only reg'd with elecsa purely for part p notifications. if part p didnt exist, i wouldnt be reg'd with anyone

 

[M107]

Agreed.

I only thought about the fully approved scheme because I'm paying for DI I might just aswel pay for FA status, but I dont do enough of that line of work for assessments every year.

My view is why take on more than I can cope with work wise, when I'm ticking along very nicely at the moment.

 

[D Brennan]

Agreed.I only thought about the fully approved scheme because I'm paying for DI I might just aswel pay for FA status, but I dont do enough of that line of work for assessments every year.

My view is why take on more than I can cope with work wise, when I'm ticking along very nicely at the moment.

agreed, i only realy get domestic now so i will prob never need or want to go approved ever. why when u dont have 2

 

[D Brennan]

my 2P worth.... (and dont ask for change!)you dont need to be reg'd with anyone to carry out commercial.

just make sure you have all insurances, and dont take anything thats way over your capabilities.

im not reg'd with anyone for commercial, and dont plan to. im only reg'd with elecsa purely for part p notifications. if part p didnt exist, i wouldnt be reg'd with anyone

SAME. can i have some change????

 

[Andy™]

SAME. can i have some change????

How would you like your 2P?!