Can you check an automation components history?

[Richard-the-Ninth]

Just wondering.
Who are you hoping to sell them to? and why is the person selling them, selling them?

 

[Martin_1972]

If I don’t need any then anyone to be honest, the person selling them says that they are surplus stock, I have not bought second hand before so I am taking quite a cautious approach.

Are you interested if I have anything to sell on?

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

No thanks, but that leads to the question, who are you actually going to sell to, maybe do some research first?

 

[Martin_1972]

No idea, I guess I thought probably eBay? But obviously the main worry is having issues if the history of the components is dodgy.

 

[Ronski]

Is there likely to be a market for the kit, looks pretty specialised to me?

I've still got stuff I bought because I thought I could buy it, use what I needed and sell the surplus.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

My question is, is there a way in which I can search into the history/previous ownership of these components? Using the serial numbers for example? I’m unsure if it is possible, but would like to find out if they have been sold on previously, and who the original purchaser was.

Thank you in advance for any information.

It just doesn’t make sense to me that it should be difficult to find that out

I think the question you have to ask is...

Excluding any manufactures warranty failure claims.....

What financial benefit is there for anyone and/or any business to keep records of any component(s) ownership referenced by serial number(s) and/or purchase date(s)..??

Remembering a key "bottom line" rule of business:-
"If there is little or no financial gain... It is unlikely to happen!!"

Although what you are asking for may be a very nice and useful reference database...
Without a bit of financial incentive.. It is very unlikely to exist!!

 

[apprentice87]

No idea, I guess I thought probably eBay? But obviously the main worry is having issues if the history of the components is dodgy.

It should be blatantly obvious if they are stolen. If you buy them and go to collect them from an active firm on an industrial park, then they are obviously legit. IF you are collecting them from pikeys that meet you in the motorway services, then they are not. How hard can it be??

john..

 

[Fleeting]

Are you actually going to use these parts in a commercial /industrial environment?
Not something I would be doing as I would want some kind of manufacturer support/back up as insurance should something go wrong.

 

[Martin_1972]

It should be blatantly obvious if they are stolen. If you buy them and go to collect them from an active firm on an industrial park, then they are obviously legit. IF you are collecting them from pikeys that meet you in the motorway services, then they are not. How hard can it be??

john..

It is someone who I don’t know and not in an industrial firm

 

[Martin_1972]

Are you actually going to use these parts in a commercial /industrial environment?
Not something I would be doing as I would want some kind of manufacturer support/back up as insurance should something go wrong.

I think the question you have to ask is...

Excluding any manufactures warranty failure claims.....

What financial benefit is there for anyone and/or any business to keep records of any component(s) ownership referenced by serial number(s) and/or purchase date(s)..??

Remembering a key "bottom line" rule of business:-
"If there is little or no financial gain... It is unlikely to happen!!"

Although what you are asking for may be a very nice and useful reference database...
Without a bit of financial incentive.. It is very unlikely to exist!!

I get all this, and all I can assume then is that the manufacturer doesn’t really care if this sort of thing takes place then!

 

[Andy™]

I get all this, and all I can assume then is that the manufacturer doesn’t really care if this sort of thing takes place then!

why would they? its been sold, they've made their money. why would they be keeping track of who bought what and when its transferred ownership?

overall, what's the benefit of having such a system going to achieve? its going to cost a fortune, it'll be voluntary anyway to registerer anything on it, so still not going to get you any further.

you keep going on about wanting a solution to a problem that doesn't exist

 

[Martin_1972]

Has no-one else ever thought of doing this when buying second hand equipment?

Or does it depend on the age of the equipment you’re buying? This stuff is 8+ years old, but if it was say 2 years old would you think differently?

 

[Andy™]

Has no-one else ever thought of doing this when buying second hand equipment?

no. it wouldnt be any benefit to me nor many companies buying / selling. not PLC's but i do buy similar somewhat expensive parts often. usually new since there getting used for a job, but often second hand because there obsolete and i need to get something working again. previous history isn't going to be any help. few weeks ago bought a used part, dated 2005. knowing who bought it previously wouldnt have made any difference. I've also sold plenty used working parts that have been removed. again, it wouldnt help any buyers and i wouldnt know who installed it in the first place anyway

it may be expensive for you buying for your own use as a hobbyist or whatever, however to trade who is dealing with this kinda thing all the time, its normal

since you are still going on about it, what exactly are you trying to achieve?

 

[Martin_1972]

no. it wouldnt be any benefit to me nor many companies buying / selling. not PLC's but i do buy similar somewhat expensive parts often. usually new since there getting used for a job, but often second hand because there obsolete and i need to get something working again. previous history isn't going to be any help. few weeks ago bought a used part, dated 2005. knowing who bought it previously wouldnt have made any difference. I've also sold plenty used working parts that have been removed. again, it wouldnt help any buyers and i wouldnt know who installed it in the first place anyway

it may be expensive for you buying for your own use as a hobbyist or whatever, however to trade who is dealing with this kinda thing all the time, its normal

since you are still going on about it, what exactly are you trying to achieve?

To be honest, now, I don’t really know.

A few days ago when I started this thread I really thought there must be a simple way to check things are what they say they are, and check they aren’t stolen.

I think I was probably looking into all this too much and should have just focused on are the items what they say they are and aren’t counterfeits.

 

[binky]

To be honest, now, I don’t really know.

A few days ago when I started this thread I really thought there must be a simple way to check things are what they say they are, and check they aren’t stolen.

I think I was probably looking into all this too much and should have just focused on are the items what they say they are and aren’t counterfeits.

As you said at the start, you're overthinking it.

Now, f you were buying used tools from someone in Dublin, that may well be a different issue. Virtually every can in Saltash, Cornwall, and quite a few in Plymouth and surrounding areas fot broken into a few years ago. One victim traced his tools to Dublin, no prizes for guessing who the criminals were...

 

[Martin_1972]

As you said at the start, you're overthinking it.

Now, f you were buying used tools from someone in Dublin, that may well be a different issue. Virtually every can in Saltash, Cornwall, and quite a few in Plymouth and surrounding areas fot broken into a few years ago. One victim traced his tools to Dublin, no prizes for guessing who the criminals were...

Wow. But even in that scenario, I find it hard to believe there is an easy way to be able to recover your tools?

 

[binky]

Wow. But even in that scenario, I find it hard to believe there is an easy way to be able to recover your tools?

There isn't.

 

[apprentice87]

Wow. But even in that scenario, I find it hard to believe there is an easy way to be able to recover your tools?

This stuff you are selling. What is it then?? How about some photos?? Some of us on here might be interested, but you have not even said what it is yet, just a load of weird questions..

john..