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Contactor drops out but while still energised, power to the coil and contactor held in but then it loses connection after a while (still with power to coil, one side and contactor held in) but if you nudge it will energise again like its not holding in tight enough, any ideas??

 
correct voltage been ok for about 4 days since fitted, will click over and hold for a while then loose power to one side but still held in

 
To drop out, you need a serious lack of power. A contactor needs a lot of force to pull in, but relatively little force to hold once pulled in.

have you REALLY still got voltage on the coil when it drops out? does it drop out and stay dropped out? or does it drop momentarily then pull back in again?

I would suspect a poor contact on the hold on contact.

 
To drop out, you need a serious lack of power. A contactor needs a lot of force to pull in, but relatively little force to hold once pulled in.have you REALLY still got voltage on the coil when it drops out? does it drop out and stay dropped out? or does it drop momentarily then pull back in again?

I would suspect a poor contact on the hold on contact.
240 to the coil and IT STAYS pulled in but fails to provide power to the other side no noise/chattering etc, there sending a replacement out for tomorrow (but not electrically tested just one of the shelf maybe from same batch CEF/china)

 
240 to the coil and IT STAYS pulled in but fails to provide power to the other side no noise/chattering etc, there sending a replacement out for tomorrow (but not electrically tested just one of the shelf maybe from same batch CEF/china)
That's why I was questioning.

So the contactor does NOT drop out (as per your earlier description) but the main contacts fail to pass current.

So it's a faulty contactor, either burnt out contacts, or just plain faulty. No option but to replace it.

Do check it's adequately rated for the load, and by that I mean rated to SWITCH that load current, not just pass that current once energised.

 
Oh I see, its not dropping out then , just a problem with the contacts , so are they overloaded ?If its single phase you can link all the poles together to spread the load .
its a AC changeover rated to 80A the load that its switching is only 32A

 
what is the AC ratings of the contactor though?

and what sort of load are you switching?

contactors have different ratings depending on the type of load,

it will be stamped AC1=**A AC2=**A and AC3=**A , depends on the load as to the actual rating of the contactor.

 
what is the AC ratings of the contactor though?and what sort of load are you switching?

contactors have different ratings depending on the type of load,

it will be stamped AC1=**A AC2=**A and AC3=**A , depends on the load as to the actual rating of the contactor.
AC-3 50A (220/240) 15kW,what do these AC numbers represent?

 
Hi There,

Hope this helps..!!

The standard utilisation categories define the current values which the contactor must be able to make or break.

These values depend on:

- the type of load being switched: squirrel cage or slip ring motor, resistors,

- the conditions under which making or breaking takes place: motor stalled, starting or running, reversing, plugging.

a.c. applications

Category AC-1

This category applies to all types of a.c. load with a power factor equal to or greater than 0.95 (cos ϕ ≥ 0.95).

Application examples: heating, distribution.

Category AC-2

This category applies to starting, plugging and inching of slip ring motors.

On closing, the contactor makes the starting current, which is about 2.5 times the rated current of the motor.

On opening, it must break the starting current, at a voltage less than or equal to the mains supply voltage.

Category AC-3

This category applies to squirrel cage motors with breaking during normal running of the motor.

On closing, the contactor makes the starting current, which is about 5 to 7 times the rated current of the motor.

On opening, it breaks the rated current drawn by the motor; at this point, the voltage at the contactor terminals is about 20% of the mains supply voltage. Breaking is light.

Application examples: all standard squirrel cage motors: lifts, escalators, conveyor belts, bucket elevators, compressors, pumps, mixers, air conditioning units, etc.

Categories AC-4 and AC-2

These categories cover applications with plugging and inching of squirrel cage and slip ring motors.

The contactor closes at a current peak which may be as high as 5 or 7 times the rated motor current.

On opening it breaks this same current at a voltage which is higher, the lower the motor speed. This voltage can be the same as the mains voltage. Breaking is severe

Application examples: printing machines, wire drawing machines, cranes and hoists, metallurgy industry.

john...

 
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good post John,

it really does depend on the load you are switching to the rating of contactor you use ktguk .

hope you have a better grasp of it now with John's post as to why I was asking for the rating and type of load you were switching,

I could never have put it so well as app87.

 
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