cu lables

[tom1]

i frequently get jobs were cu lables are missing usualy next inspection, 2 colour wiring and rcd test.

i have been sticking these on after i am done but the on thats on my mind is the next inspection, have seen this on new cu and new builds less than 10 year old, any one els see a lot of this and whats best to put in the box if you dont know when it was last inspected

thanks

 

[Lee321]

if the last date is unknown put unknown

are you charging for supplying/fitting the labels were your work does not require you to or installing them inline with the work you carried out

if your required by the type of work you did the last inspection is the one you just did

i was covered recently that your inspection label does not mean you have inspected the whole or most of the installation

when you see a sticker you should refer to the eic or pir or other certificate that it relates to which will confirm how much of the installation the sticker is covering

 

[tom1]

if the last date is unknown put unknownare you charging for the labels or installing them inline with the work you carried out

if so the last inspection is the one you just did

have been putting unknown,

usualy just put them on after i do any work if there missing

 

[tom1]

so put the date that you finish then any other spark should look at your certs and see what has been inspected

 

[Lee321]

so put the date that you finish then any other spark should look at your certs and see what has been inspected

spot on

 

[tom1]

thanks for that mate all clear now

 

[mikep]

I purchased a Dymo 400 Turbo label printer at a boot sale for

 

[Lee321]

yes good those mike and the flexibility to print virtually what ya need

 

[kme]

but the on thats on my mind is the next inspection, have seen this on new cu and new builds less than 10 year old, any one els see a lot of this and whats best to put in the box if you dont know when it was last inspectedthanks

If there isn`t a "next inspection" sticker....

Date of last inspection "unknown"

Recommended date of next inspection "ASAP"

KME

 

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If there isn`t a "next inspection" sticker....Date of last inspection "unknown"

Recommended date of next inspection "ASAP"

KME

147.5% spot on there Mr KME! Guinness :Applaud:x

 

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if the last date is unknown put unknownare you charging for supplying/fitting the labels were your work does not require you to or installing them inline with the work you carried out

if your required by the type of work you did the last inspection is the one you just did

ALL work requires you to verify appropriate warning signs and notices are in place...

Model forms, Schedule of inspections

page 340,, right hand column 5th box down..

presence of danger notices or other warning notices.

Reg group 519 page 93 onward..

 

[tom1]

If there isn`t a "next inspection" sticker....Date of last inspection "unknown"

Recommended date of next inspection "ASAP"

KME

thats what i have been putting up to now,

and what about the earlier post about the putting the date of your alteration and anyone in future refering to your certs?

 

[Apache]

Don't forget the forum is sponsored by

http://www.labelsandsigns.co.uk/

 

[kme]

thats what i have been putting up to now,and what about the earlier post about the putting the date of your alteration and anyone in future refering to your certs?

If you haven`t inspected "the installation", then you cannot provide information on the periodicity to the next inspection, as you do not know the condition of the installation, in its entirety.

You KNOW the "bit" you`ve done; but you can`t say "do a periodic on MY bit in ten years. I dunno about the rest, cos I didn`t have owt to do with it"...........

KME

 

[Lee321]

ALL work requires you to verify appropriate warning signs and notices are in place...Model forms, Schedule of inspections

page 340,, right hand column 5th box down..

presence of damager notices or other warning notices.

Reg group 519 page 93 onward..

no schedule of inspections is required for MW

514.12.1 & 631.3 & App6 (viii)

page 93 says its required for chapters 61 and 62. not 63

61 and 62 being initial verification and periodic inspection respectfully

 

[Lee321]

If you haven`t inspected "the installation", then you cannot provide information on the periodicity to the next inspection, as you do not know the condition of the installation, in its entirety.You KNOW the "bit" you`ve done; but you can`t say "do a periodic on MY bit in ten years. I dunno about the rest, cos I didn`t have owt to do with it"...........

KME

kme haven't we already covered in another thread that the sticker for the next recommended inspection does not always apply to the whole installation.

i.e you should refer to the certificate to which it relates for the extent.

so tom would have inspected and tested his work and nothing else other than what is required on the MWC once completed he is in compliance

furthermore to add 514.12.1 states that the notice "next recommended periodic inspection and testing" should only be a fixed in accordance with chapter 61 (Initial verification) or chapter 62 (periodic inspection). it does not say for chapter 63 which covers minor works.

appendix 6 (viii) also states only a schedule of inpections and test results should be issued with a EIC or PIR only not a mwc.

^sounds quite pedantic but i'm just quoting^ thumbs up smilie

 

[sparkytim]

So if you provide an additional circuit off an existing CU, you have done work that requires verification in accord with Chap 61 then THAT work requires a Test and inspection label which will clearly state WHAT work Has been Inspected and Tested. Even if it HAS a label already then Your work needs to comply with 514.12.1 ON page 93 BRB.

i.e.

New Shower circuit ONLY inspected and tested on this date.

 

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no schedule of inspections is required for MW514.12.1 & 631.3 & App6 (viii)

page 93 says its required for chapters 61 and 62. not 63

Thats because 63 is about the types of certificate.... wot you write for the different types of work.

61 and 62 being initial verification and periodic inspection respectfully

You trying to say you don't have to label up your work?

look again.....

Page 93..

514.12.1 Durable notice of such material that it will last the lifetime of the installation..

In accordance with chapters 61 & 62

Chapter 62 is if you have been doing Periodic inspection

Chapter 61 is if you have been doing.. Brand new installation OR an alteration to an existing installation..

see reg 610.4 "For an addition" etc.. etc...

(pg 156)

SO EVERY installation & all types of work require you to check that correct signs and notices are fitted..

including Next Insp Date! :|

and TBH at a few pence and a couple of seconds to peel off and stick..

wots the problem? ?:|

 

[Lee321]

if you swapped an accessorie for example

i'm not saying SL its what the brb is saying

SL chapter 61 does not include minor works chapter 63 does

610.4 refers you to check the regulation/s. that being all those in chapter 63

your usually right about 99% of things SL but i'm sticking to my guns here that its right. its not even one of those interpretation things its clear.

time is precious and costs are that tight SL

i'm with you on fitting one as not only that if you have customised ones with your contact details you may get repeat work as many people loose phone numbers etc never give it a thought until summat happens.

 

[Lee321]

So if you provide an additional circuit off an existing CU, you have done work that requires verification in accord with Chap 61 then THAT work requires a Test and inspection label which will clearly state WHAT work Has been Inspected and Tested. Even if it HAS a label already then Your work needs to comply with page 93.i.e.

New Shower circuit ONLY inspected and tested on this date.

yes thats correct tim

fyi page 93 is not a regulation but 514.12.1 is which states in accordance with chapter 61 & 62. full stop not chapter 63