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[Evans Electric]

:shakehead :C     Pleased for you Onoff.

What did he say?

 

[steptoe]

ah,

quick tip,

partition the disc BEFORE putting anything windoze on it,

windoze has a habit of throwing a strop and going in a huff if you ask it to share,,,,,,  ; |

 

[OnOff]

ah,

quick tip,

partition the disc BEFORE putting anything windoze on it,

windoze has a habit of throwing a strop and going in a huff if you ask it to share,,,,,,  ; |

Cheers, I'd heard there could be issues. Was going to follow this guide:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm

 

[BlueFlashAsh]

Cheers, I'd heard there could be issues. Was going to follow this guide:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm

tbh iv only tied running 2 OS with software think it was glass box but it was a while back. advantages are its easier safer and i used to jump in and out of os i used win7 and ubuntu i think. i have a high spec pc so i dont know if ur machine will or wont run fast enough for you but mine ran both simultaneous while doing shed loads of tasks in both with minimal distruption plus think you dont have to partition as such

 

[steptoe]

tbh iv only tied running 2 OS with software think it was glass box but it was a while back. advantages are its easier safer and i used to jump in and out of os i used win7 and ubuntu i think. i have a high spec pc so i dont know if ur machine will or wont run fast enough for you but mine ran both simultaneous while doing shed loads of tasks in both with minimal distruption plus think you dont have to partition as such

Ash, VM is fine for some stuff, but it still leaves you up the creek if the carrier OS crashes,

running Ubuntu 'inside' windows still leaves you open to all the vunerabilities of windows, and its slowness.

running windows 'inside' *nix still leaves windows open to all its vunerabilites, but keeps *nix safe.

VM is fine and has its place, but, for a truly proper experience on an average machine DUAL BOOT is much better with a shared DATA partition.

Cheers, I'd heard there could be issues. Was going to follow this guide:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm

yer, thats fine,

the big risk is in the shrinking of the windows partition, you can sometimes corrupt the windows install.  :|

 

[OnOff]

Ash, VM is fine for some stuff, but it still leaves you up the creek if the carrier OS crashes,

running Ubuntu 'inside' windows still leaves you open to all the vunerabilities of windows, and its slowness.

running windows 'inside' *nix still leaves windows open to all its vunerabilites, but keeps *nix safe.

VM is fine and has its place, but, for a truly proper experience on an average machine DUAL BOOT is much better with a shared DATA partition.

yer, thats fine,

the big risk is in the shrinking of the windows partition, you can sometimes corrupt the windows install.  :|

Going to ask the obvious then..............the PC is only an old P4 with a couple of gig of RAM, really just something to play with. I can easily do "something" else before I load it up with stuff. Any tips? Ubuntu first d'you reckon then?

 

[steptoe]

partition first,

decide what size you want for windows,

then decide what size you want for data/media,

then the remainder set aside for ubuntu, say maybe 10G for /  then make some for /home

eg, 100G HDD

XP needs a minimum of 20G, so prob 30G to keep it happy, then ubuntu, 10G for /   and 20G for /home

that leaves 40G for /media  that you can share between both Ubuntu and windows,

BTW, you can run ubuntu without /home if you want, but its useful to have at least even a small [2G] /home partition ,

oh, almost forgot, ubuntu needs a /swap , make it the same size as your RAM for best results, some say x2 RAM, but unless you need to hibernate its not needed to be that big.

oh, once you partition, install windows first on its partition,

if you install ubuntu first windows will most likely overwrite the grub loader for ubuntu,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[OnOff]

partition first,

decide what size you want for windows,

then decide what size you want for data/media,

then the remainder set aside for ubuntu, say maybe 10G for /  then make some for /home

eg, 100G HDD

XP needs a minimum of 20G, so prob 30G to keep it happy, then ubuntu, 10G for /   and 20G for /home

that leaves 40G for /media  that you can share between both Ubuntu and windows,

BTW, you can run ubuntu without /home if you want, but its useful to have at least even a small [2G] /home partition ,

oh, almost forgot, ubuntu needs a /swap , make it the same size as your RAM for best results, some say x2 RAM, but unless you need to hibernate its not needed to be that big.

oh, once you partition, install windows first on its partition,

if you install ubuntu first windows will most likely overwrite the grub loader for ubuntu,,,,,,,,,,,

Scoobed. Always wondered what's a good "split" etc. What is "home" exactly? Media is obvious.

Going to sound daft but should I then start again and create my 5 (?) partitions using Ubuntu?

So

Ubuntu

Home

Swap

XP

Media

 

[steptoe]

/ Is the OS , eg, Ubuntu, /home is where it puts your stuff, music, pix etc, it means you can change the OS and keep your files,

Windows just puts everything in one place,

/swap is used like additional RAM.

As you are using a /media partition you can put all your pix etc there so /home isnt necessarily needed, but Id still put one in for faster access using ext4, rather than windows FAT system.

IIRC /home and /swap can be logical rather than primary if you want.

Yes, personally, I would start again with the partitions already made and formatted,

Use FAT for /media so that windows can see it, ext4 for the Ubuntu partitions.

 

[BlueFlashAsh]

Ash, VM is fine for some stuff, but it still leaves you up the creek if the carrier OS crashes,

running Ubuntu 'inside' windows still leaves you open to all the vunerabilities of windows, and its slowness.

running windows 'inside' *nix still leaves windows open to all its vunerabilites, but keeps *nix safe.

VM is fine and has its place, but, for a truly proper experience on an average machine DUAL BOOT is much better with a shared DATA partition.

yer, thats fine,

the big risk is in the shrinking of the windows partition, you can sometimes corrupt the windows install.  :|

true supose it depnends on the use. i only used it because at the time i was doing a com sci course and needed to use diff os's and learn how to use there com lines etc. didn really notice any slowwing  but at the time my pc was top spec still a good one 3yrs on

would say one thing though VM's are good for trying lots of diff os's without commiting to them. could be an idea to partition and install windows with a VM and try a few and install the one you get on best with tbh i know its lame but i love windows dont get me wrong know there are more than a few problems with it and i hate win8 on the desktop (good on phones and tabs) but generally its easy to use and compatible with most stuff

 

[OnOff]

Discovering Ubuntu was my "where have you been all my life" computing moment tbh! :lol: Then you get all the different Linux flavours...................like Peppermint.