Electric sockets for outside but undercover!

[RedArcher68]

Hi

I’m building an outdoor but undercover seating area 5m x 4m (approx) it will be open air on two sides. With lighting and power included.
What type of sockets/switches do I need?
The IP66 type of socket would look out of place? Also wiring and wall-back-boxes will be chased into the wall.
I’ve tried searching for the answer myself but my query just doesn’t return the relevant info for what I’m looking for

Was wondering if I could just use standard MK plastic sockets?

Any help you can proved would be appreciated

Regards
RedArcher

 

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Hi

I’m building an outdoor but undercover seating area 5m x 4m (approx) it will be open air on two sides. With lighting and power included.
What type of sockets/switches do I need?
The IP66 type of socket would look out of place? Also wiring and wall-back-boxes will be chased into the wall.
I’ve tried searching for the answer myself but my query just doesn’t return the relevant info for what I’m looking for

Was wondering if I could just use standard MK plastic sockets?

Any help you can proved would be appreciated

Regards
RedArcher

I would guess that the searching you have done has already returned the correct solution.. ??

Outdoor wiring and accessories need to be compatible with all of the potential external influences.....

What do the manufactures specification for the standard MK socket you are proposing say?

How will they cope with any potential damp, moisture, frost, insects, UV, dust, heat, mechanical knocks, bumps etc.. etc..

I wouldn't even consider fitting a standard plastic socket in a shed / workshop / garage due to the external influences...
Outdoor accessories that I fit, even with a canopy, will always be an accessory Designed to be used outdoors!

 

[kerching]

How will you be supplying power to these sockets and lights?

 

[michael8554]

"How will they cope with any potential damp, moisture, frost, insects, UV, dust, heat, mechanical knocks, bumps etc.. etc.."

Plus an accidental dousing with a garden hose, or a snow drift against that wall.

 

[binky]

Get a wet or misty, windy day, and it's surprising how far water will blow under your canopy

 

[RedArcher68]

How will you be supplying power to these sockets and lights?

SWA cable!
Can I go from House fuse board to Shed’s fuse board to Outside seating area’s fuse board?
Cable will be underground in conduit

 

[Andy1733]

It's not just the sockets you have to consider. What will you be plugging into them? Will they be left outdoors (under cover)

 

[RedArcher68]

It's not just the sockets you have to consider. What will you be plugging into them? Will they be left outdoors (under cover)

Any electrical items will be left outdoors in cupboards or put away in the shed.

 

[Andy™]

SWA cable!
Can I go from House fuse board to Shed’s fuse board to Outside seating area’s fuse board?
Cable will be underground in conduit

you're already wanting to bodge it with a standard indoor socket outside. why not use some alarm wire instead?

 

[Murdoch]

SWA cable!
Can I go from House fuse board to Shed’s fuse board to Outside seating area’s fuse board?
Cable will be underground in conduit

an odd design to say the least …..

 

[johnb2713]

you're already wanting to bodge it with a standard indoor socket outside. why not use some alarm wire instead?

Thats a bit harsh..........., he asked for advice not abuse.

 

[Andy™]

Thats a bit harsh..........., he asked for advice not abuse.

well its going to be easier to terminating a SWA into a box that's chased into a wall. although i suspect it may not have the correct gland on the end anyway

 

[Badger]

you're already wanting to bodge it with a standard indoor socket outside. why not use some alarm wire instead?

door bell cable its only 2 core and op could install an earth rid at each socket location

 

[UNG]

I’m building an outdoor but undercover seating area 5m x 4m (approx) it will be open air on two sides. With lighting and power included.
What type of sockets/switches do I need?

Given the outdoor environment you have a limited choice as the accessories will need to have a suitable IP rating

The IP66 type of socket would look out of place?

Why given that the installation is outdoors

Also wiring and wall-back-boxes will be chased into the wall.

Are you building the wall around this installation or are you chasing it into a finished wall

I’ve tried searching for the answer myself but my query just doesn’t return the relevant info for what I’m looking for

Is it that the search results are not compatible with what you want to do

Was wondering if I could just use standard MK plastic sockets?

I find it worrying that you are even asking this

Any help you can proved would be appreciated

Have you thought of using https://www.electricpoint.com/mk-ma...SgsL59Py7yBSOAka-sd9E2hIizqVzPYUaAqOdEALw_wcB
with the MK outdoor sockets, I have used quite a few and they make the outdoor sockets less obtrusive

SWA cable!

Burying SWA cable in a wall is asking for future problems you would probably be better using plastic conduit

Can I go from House fuse board to Shed’s fuse board to Outside seating area’s fuse board?

The mind boggles as to what "fuse board" you are going to install and where you are going to install it for the outside seating area

Cable will be underground in conduit

I assume you mean you are installing SWA in underground ducting

And the big question, given this is a DIY project how do you intend to test and verify the finished installation complies with and meets the requirements of BS7671 so you can minimise the risk of a fatality

 

[Murdoch]

You can lead a horse to water ............. springs to mind

 

[sirsparkabit]

You can lead a horse to water ............. springs to mind

I love a drink

 

[UNG]

I love a drink

Another good reason for making sure the job is right as some people do the silliest things when the alcohol takes over

 

[Andy™]

some people do the silliest things when the alcohol takes over

some don't even need the alcohol

 

[sirsparkabit]

some don't even need the alcohol

I was talking about water ,where you lead horses

 

[kerching]

Anyone mentioned Part P /building control/Jockland or whatever?