Electricity unsafe cert.

[Carlos_tlewis]

Hello,

Went to look at a job and found it to be unsafe by just looking at it, live conductors were exposed etc.

The property is a shop with a flat above and the problem I have is the landlord understands it's unsafe and wants it switched off and fixed but the tenant

 

[steptoe]

Electrical Disconnection Notice

 

[a1]

I am sure that I saw an Electrical Danger Notice (EDN) on this forum, somewhere.

Just tried to find it, but I can't. :_|

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Here you go, I have added it here:

Electrical Danger Notification - Electrical Danger Notice - Download - EDN - If you would like to support the forum, and be able to downlod other downloads.

Or:

Electrical Danger Notification - Electrical Danger Notice - Download - EDN - If you don't - Free.

 

[ProDave]

What possible grounds has the tenant got for refusing to allow the landlord to make it safe?

If I was the landlord, and the tenant was being unreasonable like that, I would give the tenant notice to quit, get the property made safe, then re let it to a more deserving tenant.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

What possible grounds has the tenant got for refusing to allow the landlord to make it safe?If I was the landlord, and the tenant was being unreasonable like that, I would give the tenant notice to quit, get the property made safe, then re let it to a more deserving tenant.

Fact of life #873

Electrician, 'This installation is dangerous and it needs immediate attention or disconnection'

Tenant, 'There's nothing wrong, the lights come on & appliances work when plugged in'

 

[Sharpend]

Fact of life #873Electrician, 'This installation is dangerous and it needs immediate attention or disconnection'

Tenant, 'There's nothing wrong, the lights come on & appliances work when plugged in'

Ain't that the truth!! :red card

 

[ProDave]

Ain't that the truth!! :red card

Unfortunately yes.

Until someone gets hurt.

THEN they blame the electrician (or at least the landlord) for it being unsafe, even if the tenant had previously refused a request to allow work to be done.

Genuine question: Where would it stand in a court of law if the electrician had told the landlord it was unsafe, the landlord had agreed to have the work done to make it safe, but the tenant refused to allow entry for the work to be done. If the tenant, or someone else then got an electric shock and died, WHO would be in court?

 

[Theorysparky]

Landlord

failure of 'Duty of Care'

Landlord should tell the tenants that the sparky is coming in on a set day, min 48hrs notice,to carry out the work

the tenants have no where to go on this,,,they cannot go to the council they would come down on the landlords side

i am assuming the issues with the electrics are fixable within in a short period of time otherwise there may be an issue with rehousing to a hotel ?????

not too sure on that one

 

[Doc Hudson]

Unfortunately yes.Until someone gets hurt.

THEN they blame the electrician (or at least the landlord) for it being unsafe, even if the tenant had previously refused a request to allow work to be done.

Genuine question: Where would it stand in a court of law if the electrician had told the landlord it was unsafe, the landlord had agreed to have the work done to make it safe, but the tenant refused to allow entry for the work to be done. If the tenant, or someone else then got an electric shock and died, WHO would be in court?

From here Making repairs in privately rented accommodation : Directgov - Home and community this:

What landlords should do when repairs are needed

As a landlord, you have a legal right to enter your property to inspect it or carry out repairs. You must give your tenants at least 24 hours' notice, although immediate access may be possible in emergencies.

You cannot enter the property in other circumstances, unless you have a court order.

Although a landlord cannot legally just go entering a property where a tenant is living and has a valid tenancy agreement. They do have a legal obligation to ensure availability for water, electricity and or gas to allow basic cleaning, heating and cooking to be carried out. Also they have to ensure the property is watertight from the weather, no leaking roofs or windows. Whilst a tenant may say it is not convenient today due to personal family issues on a particular day, they cannot outright refuse access ever. In an emergency a Landlord can enter without notice, but if given a few days notice no tenant could reasonably say it is not convenient to allow access for the work.

Doc H.

 

[S60TEM]

Fill out a Danger notice with the defects, sign it, get the landlord to sign it then disconnect the offending/ dangerous circuits!

 

[PC Electrics]

No response from Carlos in a week???????

 

[Sharpend]

No response from Carlos in a week???????

Maybe the landlord didn't take it well!?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I heard the landlord had a new patio laid last week.

 

[S60TEM]

chef in the study with the candle stick!!