Equal rights for the Scots.

[Evans Electric]

I think we should stand shoulder to shoulder with our Scots sparky brothers and fight for equal rights for them !!!

WHO WILL JOIN ME IN THIS NOBLE QUEST !!!!

What quest you may say .

Why the quest to bring Part P registration to Scotland ,thats what ! Those poor guys have no scam providers to pay their money to, nowhere to notify every job you ever do, no one to prevent you from doing domestic work unless registered, no one to assess you as competent every year. :_|

Those poor guys must be crying into their sporrons !!!

McDeke

 

[NozSpark]

I thought that you had to registered with SELECT or NICEIC to work as a domestic spark up there????

 

[jdmjrmdam]

I thought that you had to registered with SELECT or NICEIC to work as a domestic spark up there????

Good question as an aspiring spark I'd like to get a definative answer on that. Hopefully some of my more learned kins folk will answer.

My understanding is that to comply with Scottish building regs all electrical work has to comply with BS7671 and as long it it does then its OK. That does imply of course that all the appropriate inspection and testing is carried out so I guess a pre-req to doing work is have the knowledge and test equipment.

 

[Evans Electric]

Well that sounds sensible to me , Jidmajuryjam .

 

[a12jpm]

Sshhh. Don't tell everyone or they'll all move up here.

Quite honestly as long as you install to the 17th there is not much else you need, simplse. There is no where near as much stuff that is notifiable to BC so the scam providers must make a few less pennies up here.

 

[green-hornet]

Although you say that there are many who do go approved as a standard route, which I wish they would employ in England to be honest.

Everyone should have a JIB record of acheivement, do a recognised course and be fully compliant.

 

[PBC_1966]

My understanding is that to comply with Scottish building regs all electrical work has to comply with BS7671

I've heard that too, but I've never seen anything in legislation to back it up.

The domestic handbook for Scottish Building Regs. section 4 here -

http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/tech_handbooks/th_pdf_2009/Section_4_Domestic_May_2009.pdf

- contains passing references to BS7671, but appears to quote the legislation for "mandatory standard 4.5" which is found in the Building (Scotland) Regulations 2004 here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/ssi2004/20040406.htm

The actual law seems to contain only the same rather vague sort of requirement as Part P in England:

4.5 Every building must be designed and constructed in such a way that the electrical installation does not-(a) threaten the health and safety of the people in, and around, the building; and

(B) become a source of fire.

Of course, I've not delved too deeply into it, being a Sassenach who has never set foot north of Hadrian's Wall.

 

[steptoe]

Although you say that there are many who do go approved as a standard route, which I wish they would employ in England to be honest.Everyone should have a JIB record of acheivement, do a recognised course and be fully compliant.

why.?

anyone can get one these days anyway,

sorry, but dont agree with that at all.

in the same way I dont agree with 5week wonders being called/calling themselves/being accepted

as sparks.

JIB is no longer what it was, so i do a 5week course and get myself a nvq3

and JIB issues me with a card saying Im a spark,

or

I have my 17th

2391

and 40 years experience but nothing else,

and JIB say Im NOT an electrician.......

I know who Id rather have wiring my house.

 

[septiclecky]

why.?anyone can get one these days anyway,

sorry, but dont agree with that at all.

in the same way I dont agree with 5week wonders being called/calling themselves/being accepted

as sparks.

JIB is no longer what it was, so i do a 5week course and get myself a nvq3

and JIB issues me with a card saying Im a spark,

or

I have my 17th

2391

and 40 years experience but nothing else,

and JIB say Im NOT an electrician.......

I know who Id rather have wiring my house.

Well your not your a Rag and BonemanROTFWLROTFWLROTFWL

 

[steptoe]

Well your not your a Rag and BonemanROTFWLROTFWLROTFWL

it should have been in the 3rd party,

a friend of someone i know.............

BlushingBlushingBlushingBlushing

 

[jdmjrmdam]

Of course, I've not delved too deeply into it, being a Sassenach who has never set foot north of Hadrian's Wall.

It's just like England but colder and the pubs are open longer

Oh and we get an extra day off at new year.