Getting Paid! Advice Needed!

[husky2013]

Hey Guys n Girls

after a bit of advice  pretty please...

streetlighter started work for a company in January, and finished working for them in February. In total they now owe him 3 weeks money! they have he bank details, and all the other information needed!  it was not on a subcontracting contract, it was an employed contract!

now we are 1/2 way through march, and he still hasnt been paid!

he has emailed the office several times, and phoned them and keeps getting fobbed off, normally with 'im not dealing with this contract anymore you need to contact bob,  or  the big boss is away at the moment so i cant deal with it, or send an email in and we will sort it!

any suggestions as to what to do or how to go about it as we both are getting rather cheesed off with it as im sure  any1 would be when they are owed near £1400.00  and short of me walking in there guns blazing and doing damage.... im at a loss on what to do! whether to contact a solicitor or just keep mithering them to get fobbed off again!

any advice greatfully recieved

Thanks in Advance

 

[Andy™]

small claims court?

 

[m4tty]

Have you sent in reminder invoices stating interest will be charged at xyz and late payment terms ?

 

[ProDave]

Send a letter by recorded delivery, stating if payment is not made in 14 days, you will hand the debt over to a debt collection agency.

The Debt collectors will then escalate it, take it to court or whatever, and add their fees to the claim.

By sending a written notice stating you will do that if not paid within 14 days gives them a chance to pay you and avoid any fees.

But be prepared to see it through. When I enquired I would have had to pay an up front fee of £25 to the debt collector, and then then take it over and add all other costs to the defendant.  But I never had to go that far, the letter stating I was about to do that made them pay.

 

[Steve3948]

So are you saying he was PAYE ??

Maybe monthly paid, month in hand ??

 

[binky]

did you sign any contracts?

 

[Evans Electric]

Mrs Streety ,  to me thats not a late payment TBH .  

By an "employed contract"   do you mean you quoted some work for them , they accepted the quote and you did it as a "Contractor" not a Subby. ?

When I say "not late"  I don't know what their terms are but its usual  to complete the work in February...send in invoice ... payment would be at least 30 days   possibly 60 .  I wouldn't have expected anything before the end of March TBH .

However the last time I had a very slow payer I informed them I would instigating The Construction Industry Late Payment Scheme  and they paid up soonafter . 

You can look it up online .

 

[Steve3948]

Business to Business is normally accepted as 30 days from the end of the month, however we have a few where its 60 days.

So complete works some time in February, invoice at any point in February, then it should be paid before the end of March, but more like 5th April, and some 5th May.

 

[NozSpark]

If I was in this situation then I'd send them a letter by recorded delivery stating your case and greviences and telling them that if it is not resolved within XX days/weeks that you will be submitting a small claims court claim or CCJ naming the company and MD (personally) and then if it isnt resolved after that that you will take the balif route.

If you do anything like a CCJ or small claims court then make sure that you name the MD (Inc their home address) so that if they wind up the company you will still be able to (hopefully) get your money off the MD

 

[Evans Electric]

Thats interesting Noz .

I'm constantly amazed at businesses that go bust and walk away , only to start up again next week  when in effect the directors where trading fraudulently by, often , ordering goods or services knowing they don't have the means to pay .

Afterthougt ...often an MD or Company Secretary will make sure their house is in their wife's name.

 

[husky2013]

By employed contract i mean he was employed...

so no invoices need be sent or anything like that!   

his timesheets where put in to the girls in the offices for the hours he done etc

like a normal job!

he started work in jan and was told that he was due to be paid the last friday of Feb,  that date came and went and still not been paid!

i fired off an email to them  stating that should we not have had contact from them by today in regards to his pay then we would be contacting the Union that streety is part of!

guess what... still no contact   so streety is going to contact his union about it, as they are seriously now beginning to take the 'michael' << insert naughty word here!

 

[binky]

Not sure if you can CCj on employed basis, but I would certainly be going that way pronto.

 

[Evans Electric]

Oh  ! Right !   If he was an employee then he should have a whole arsenal of back-up to call upon .   

Is he in a trade union ?

Citizens Advice Bureau .

Does he have a Contract of Employment?

Are they going ponto if they're not paying their employees?

Does he have copies of his time sheets  ?

I believe that , unless he signed a contract of employment , there was a law that said a manual worker must be paid by the day in coin of the realm .  This may be pie in the sky these days but you never know .

 

[streetlighter]

Well i called the MD today and the phone went to voicemail so i thought right ive had enough of this so i was about to call my old UCATT rep for Andy Fishers number to get some proper advice when i got a txt message stating i would be paid at the end of the month so hopefully i might get my money.

This is the worst firm ive ever been employed by or had the misfortune to deal with all i can say is they wont last long in the highway lighting sector from my experience of them.

 

[Steve3948]

Been working self employed 28 years now and getting paid has always been an uphill battle, the bigger the company the longer they take, 30, 60, 90 days.

Some are good and some are and some are just a joke.

Nowdays I will not work for any that don't settle within 60 days max from the end of the month, that can be almost 3 months from when the job was completed.

 

[kerching]

If a customer is late in paying me then, if I work for them again my invoice includes a " hidden hassle uplift factor" to allow for the potential,of being paid late.

Since going self employed four years ago I have only had one bad payer ( my customer base varies from individuals up to massive international corporations ). I was due an interim payment, job half done. He mucked me about so much that I did no more work until I got paid what I was owed. Then I never went back, that was 2 years ago, his job is half done and I don't care! Every time he rang me I put him off , like he was putting me off and then a couple of months later I told him to shove it wher only a Politicians Cell mate would find it. HE Was unhappy, I wasn't

Just being sensible, NOT being a charity

 

[kerching]

I really - REALLY find that hard to believe

:shakehead

Nobody

:shakehead

Thats Nobody

:shakehead :shakehead

Is that cynical after only 4 

:shakehead

Thats 4 years

Unless.............

:innocent

There is something

:yellow card

You aint telling us

:slap

I was born cynical

To misquote Dubbya Bush........" Fool me once, shame on you. Try to **** me over twice, **** you! "

 

[streetlighter]

Just wondering if id get ****ed if i named and shamed them on here As there always advertising for Electricians and operatives in the Manchester area with rather low rates of pay less than what i was on and that was below par

 

[Sharpend]

We could try hangman!

Is there an E?

 

[Badger]

can i have a p bob please :slap