give me a hand quoting for this ... please

[danny7299]

Guinness

please see attached plans 5 bed , 5 bathrooms etc , i have screwed to whole sellers down to

 

[steptoe]

location would be a great help Danny,

London prices aint gonna get you work in Sunderland (for example) or vice versa, you will be inundated in London with a Burnley price.

 

[danny7299]

sorry my old mucker

, the midland , nr Twycross (The area and the customer are rather posh with your adv 2 up 2 down terrace costing about

 

[steptoe]

sorry, way out of my pricing then,

my average 2&2 would cost about 100k

I really wouldnt know how to price this without being there,

but 5K sounds helluva cheap to me ,

I'd be wanting 2.5 for a normal 3/2.5 bed semi around here costing 160k to buy, if that gives you any idea.

EDIT, where does

 

[Manator]

You can not quote for any work based on the value of the property, if you want to remain competative you have to price to your local area, some will be cheaper I can bet.

If your materials are costing you that much, I would add at least 35%, which would leave you with about

 

[danny7299]

when you say a point is that 1 x socekt 1 x switch 1 x pendent etc

it comes in at

 

[steptoe]

so if you average it out Danny that is 2 & 1/2 weeks for 2 men, = 5 weeks, how much money do you need for 1 weeks work?

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You can not quote for any work based on the value of the property, if you want to remain competative you have to price to your local area, some will be cheaper I can bet.If your materials are costing you that much, I would add at least 35%, which would leave you with about

 

[danny7299]

i normally work on

 

[Manator]

I do like the anology, but working for beer is not good , my wife has expensive mixer type drinking problems.

 

[danny7299]

Does your 2.5 weeks Include for test, certificate and notify ?

yes it does ,

 

[steptoe]

I do like the anology, but working for beer is not good , my wife has expensive mixer type drinking problems.

Aggie's not so keen on it either, the last big job I did was a bit of a mess,

we didnt eat for almost 3 weeks and the mortgage was behind,

still, I was that drunk I didnt care for nearly 3 months,

disclaimer - (BTW kids, that was a joke.!)

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3400 / 5 = 680 per week, so Im puzzled as to where your figures come from.

please let my mental thoughts be way out.

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OK, I get it now,

but,

unless your lad is worth a lot more than you are paying him I think you will struggle in 2&1/2 weeks, jobs like this always have changes that you (might) be expected to absorb, or at the least, hold ups by someone else not having something done.

 

[Voltimax]

Allow 1 hour of labour per point, then add your materials on.

That's generally a good rule of thumb.

 

[Evans Electric]

A 5 minute quote , no travel time included ,

 

[NozSpark]

Allow 1 hour of labour per point, then add your materials on.That's generally a good rule of thumb.

Thats pretty much what I do

Materials +20% markup

1 hr per point (4 hrs for CU)

notification @

 

[Voltimax]

Thats pretty much what I doMaterials +20% markup

1 hr per point (4 hrs for CU)

notification @

 

[PC Electrics]

I'm close to Ev at

 

[PC Electrics]

Thats pretty much what I doMaterials +20% markup

1 hr per point (4 hrs for CU)

notification @

 

[ProDave]

ijust to give you some back ground , i was asked to price as the builder has given his price for his spark (who is VAT registred ) , so ontop of the other spaks price there is the builders cut and VAT , and as i am not VAT reg she wanted me to quote to her directly .

Just to point out, if this is a new build, then there is NO VAT

So the builder should not be charging the customer VAT on any of his labour or materials. If you are in direct contact with the owner, point this out to them.

This puts a non VAT registered sparky at a disadvantage, as we have no way of buying materials without VAT, and no mechanism to claim the VAT back, so we have to pass on the VAT on materials to the customer, which inflates our price compared to a VAT registered sparky.

In this situation, I have a good relationship with a VAT registered builder, so if I'm wiring a house that he is building, I give him the shopping list to buy the parts and claim the VAT back, and I just charge him for the labour.

I have even done the same when I work directly for the house owner, give him the list of parts to buy, and at the end of the build he can claim the VAT back, and I just charge him labour.

If the home owner tries to claim back the VAT that the builder has charged him, he won't get it, he will instead be told to claim it back from the builder who should not have charged it in the first place. The VAT reclaim mechanism for self builders is only to cover the VAT on materials they have directly purchased. (and how do I know this....)

 

[NozSpark]

A question about this method if I may:what is 'a point'?

Is a 2G switch 2 points? A 3G switch 3 points? or are they just one point each?

Is a light and its associated switch 2 points or 1?

I count all types of switch as a point and light fittings as a separate point.... fancy fittings may need extra time so adjust as necessary

 

[Litttle Shonet]

What a good thread this is

Allow 1 hour of labour per point, then add your materials on.That's generally a good rule of thumb.

You learn something new all the time

Cheers Voltimax