give me a hand quoting for this ... please

[danny7299]

Just to point out, if this is a new build, then there is NO VAT

sorry what ment was , there is a house there but there taking it back to the brick work and starting again , so essentially it's like a new build ... Appoliges

 

[safedepth]

Thats pretty much what I doMaterials +20% markup

1 hr per point (4 hrs for CU)

notification @

 

[NozSpark]

Notification costs = Part P costs

these are based on my scheme membership and the actual notification cost... I split it out on a rough pro-rata basis at

 

[safedepth]

Notification costs = Part P coststhese are based on my scheme membership and the actual notification cost... I split it out on a rough pro-rata basis at

 

[NozSpark]

I don't include it as a seperate cost to the customer,,,

I just use it in my calculation of the total cost.. My customers do not get split material/labour costs, just the total cost of the job

 

[safedepth]

I don't include it as a seperate cost to the customer,,,I just use it in my calculation of the total cost.. My customers do not get split material/labour costs, just the total cost of the job

I didn't think you would.

I usually try to give the customer the breakdown of the materials/labour cost though. Do you find they ever ask for it?

Maybe it's something I can revise for mine.

 

[NozSpark]

The only customers that I break it down for are my VAT registered ones where they are paying for the materials or a CIS customer who deducts TAX from labour only

 

[Sidewinder]

Remember Professional Services are exempt from CIS, I&T is classed specifically as a Professional Service by HMRC if you check out the CIS information.

 

[PC Electrics]

I don't include it as a seperate cost to the customer,,,I just use it in my calculation of the total cost.. My customers do not get split material/labour costs, just the total cost of the job

Same here, but I use

 

[Sidewinder]

It is a legitimate way of reducing your CIS charges, as, your charges for I&T will be a higher hourly rate as your "I&T person" has to be more "skilled" than your installer pulling cables in and hanging things on walls.

Please don't anyone take that the wrong way, you all know what I mean!

 

[NozSpark]

Remember Professional Services are exempt from CIS, I&T is classed specifically as a Professional Service by HMRC if you check out the CIS information.

I'll have to remember that one,,,

maybe I should show sub totals for my CIS work then?

Materials (non-deductable)

I&T (non-deductable)

Labour

even if the I&T is only for an hours labour

 

[Sidewinder]

Also remember filling in the forms/notification is Professional Fees too!

I think the link was posted up on here a while back.

I'll have another look see while I'm waiting for you know what!!!

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Here to start,

HM Revenue & Customs: Deciding whether your work comes within CIS

Here: in Appendix A sect 23

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/cis340.pdf

IIRC when I was asked to provide a UTR for some work we did there was some other info I dug up and I spoke to HMRC and got a reference no to exclude the I&T part.

Also remember that there are other qualifications for this mind, if you are already CIS registered then you have to fill in monthlies anyway even if you don't do CIS work?

So it may not be worth it?

 

[NozSpark]

I thought that only the "Main" contractors had to fill out the monthlies,, with a "0" for months that you haven't done any work

 

[Sidewinder]

Dunno mate not CIS!

 

[NozSpark]

I am.. not as a main contractor though.... I don't do monthlies!

From what I know the main contractor has to do them either with the amount they pay you or a Zero amount if you didn't earn anything, they can also remove you from their roll of subcontractors so then they wouldn't have to enter anything... there is a